Deadbeat Dad, Tea Party Rep. Joe Walsh Says Debate Over Birth Control Has Nothing To Do With Women

Darryl the man is a right wing nut who want take care of his own children.

He doesn't care for his kids.

He's an ignorant deadbeat Dad.

With a big mouth.

Well that's his "old" family. He has a new one now. Wish I could find the article where he actually called the children from his first marriage his "old family" and his second wife his "new family".

I was disgusted. Old family indeed. Like worn out running shoes or raggedy sweat pants.

Pffft

Like he traded in the '94 Accord for a late-model Miata. Jerk.

Has the deadbeat paid up yet? Anybody know?

Not that I have heard and I live near his district.

I'm sure that he hasn't. If he had, he would have puffed out his over-extended, over-blown, over-used ego and announced to the world at large how much he just loves and supports his children.

He had a "verbal agreement" to stop paying.

Of course, he also had a Court ORDER requiring him to pay the support. He knows this is a loser for him, and he's stretching out the litigation to get him through the November 2012 election.

He's a deadbeat loser who won't support his kids. There's nothing else we need to know about him.

The region where he is is yes, quite conservative.

I hope the women of that area understand what is on the line here....

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I believe he will be ONE and DONE.....he only won his seat by 291 votes and there was a green party candidate that got over 6000, and that was before anyone knew about the $117,000 in back child support and now this.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Walsh_(Illinois_politician) at the bottom of the page it shows the votes cast in 2010 elections.....

The republican found this dip @!$%# . So chances are they got another one ready to go..

Like walker,christe they one signed on for one trip. All the republicans wanted to do was to resrict voting rights for the poor.

The big money doesn't want any changes.

I don't know anything about Krishnamoorthi but Tammy Duckworth has my support.

I just hope they don't do to her what the did to Max Cleland in Georgia when he ran for the House.

Well, Run for Office is a difficult term for both of these folks as they both lost both of their legs fighting for us overseas.

I just hope they don't do to her what the did to Max Cleland in Georgia when he ran for the House.

The difference is what they pulled on Mr. Cleland in Georgia will not fly here in Illinois. Tammy Duckworth is well known and respected. IMO, should Walsh and his supporters try that tactic, it will burn them big time!

I do realize there is more than distance in the significant distinction between Georgia and Illinois.

Just trying to make a point.

Tammy will kick the @!$%# out of Walsh.

Military service is a Duckworth tradition - a family member has served during every period of conflict since the Revolution. Tammy followed suit by joining the Reserves in graduate school and chose to fly helicopters because it was one of the few combat jobs open to women.

As a Black Hawk helicopter pilot, she was one of the first women to fly combat missions in Iraq until November 12th, 2004 when her helicopter was hit by an RPG. Tammy lost both legs and part of the use of her right arm in the explosion, and was awarded the Purple Heart for her combat injuries.

Go Tammy! She has my full support!

I just donated $10 to her campaign! She sounds awesome.

Tammy Duckworth is an honorable woman, a disabled vet. She probably has the best chance. Seriously, could any female in this dork's district vote for him? Even before this anti-woman's health issues thing. He owes his children over 100k.

Justen:

The Supreme Court will throw out obamacare later on this year, case closed.

What are your qualifications for making this statement? Are you a Constitutional attorney? Do you have sources inside SCOTUS?

Or are you just blowing smoke?

Even the experts are not sure how this is going to come out.

So go ahead...charm us with your hubris. But until the SCOTUS issues a ruling, predicting the future is a fool's errand.

Justen you AREN"T paying for it. That is the point. The insurance company is.

Your prediction is baseless..no one knows how the SCOTUS will vote. Remember parts of HCR reform has been upheld by several lower courts.

Actually, the right to contraception at your tax expense is a rather settled issue.

Just as you, as a probable believer in Jesus (who rather proclaimed pacifism and turn-the-other-cheek, and pro-life non-death penalty) would STILL be forced to pay taxes to support our armed forces who actively shoot and kill people, and for taxes that execute prisoners... Sorry, but your religious rights do NOT extend to those matters.

If you believed that women should not be educated, nor taught to read, then you still have to pay taxes that would go to public schools.

When YOUR girfriend, if you have one, gets pregnant.....I hope she puts the screws to you for the Child support or will you do a Rae Carrouth on her?

Justen- Your position will be very welcome to Walsh, after all, he has children but doesn't want to pay for them either.

JustenO, virtually every time I see you on the Vine, you post a misinformed Fox/Right wing talking point of an opinion, then you get schooled on the facts and admit that you could be wrong.

To me this means that you're at least capable of learning that what you been led to believe is not the whole story, and is sometimes just plain wrong.

Why not do yourself a favor and take a few minutes to get informed about the truth of an issue from a source outside the Right Wing echo chamber before making a comment?

my opinion on the SC decision is just that, same as yours or anyone elses, but you're correct, it will be 5-4 and it could go either way.

But as for this being a womens reproductive rights arguement, it's not, for crying out loud, everyone uses contraception (except for Santorum I guess), it's not a republican vs. democrat issue.

I don't really agree with the "it's a Christian thing" either, the gov tells all kinds of religions what they can and can't do.

jwc... you know I'm right 90% of the time.

Justen:

#5: The Supreme Court will throw out obamacare later on this year, case closed.

#5.7 my opinion on the SC decision is just that, same as yours or anyone elses, but you're correct, it will be 5-4 and it could go either way.

Zero points for consistency. Do you always post stuff that you don't actually believe?

well, no, not always.

but before my morning joe, I can get a little worked up when I read this stuff.

Get caffeinated before you post stuff like this. You diminish your credibility when you contradict yourself in successive posts.

Credibility is difficult to achieve, but easy to squander.

Another point that needs to be made is that birth control isn't always birth control, sometimes it's hormone therapy to treat acne, excessive bleeding, disabling PMS/PMDD, and endometriosis.

Oh, please don't confuse these men with the facts.

MY youngest is susecptable to endometriosis and the pill is certainly the less expensive option to the surgery....trust me on that. On top of that, she saw what my oldest went through when pregnant and has no intention of having kids. Any of you ass holes want to take this granny on to force her NOT to have access to the pill or birth control......up to and INCLUDING the scum running for political office....BRING IT. I'll gladly give you the address co you can come here or we can look for a neutral ground for me to KICK YO ASS!

Petri - I believe most parents feel that way and that will show in November when the Silent Majority will vote. After that we'll see how fast the GOP changes their tune when they realize that giving lip service to the Vocal Minority probably cost them more votes than it got them.

And as usual the gNOp are too cowardly to take on a 50+year old granny. Chicken@!$%# bastards! Have no respect for them!

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Oh, please don't confuse these men with the facts.

Actually, some of us aren't confused and know exactly what meanpeoplesuck42 speaks of. It is just that the ones who don't know are so obvious about their ignorance.

The real issue is as always, power. All the administration is saying is that perscriptions for birth control should be treated no differently then other perscriptions, and that religious employers should be treated no differently then any other employer. Some Catholics inflated this simple and fair doctrine into an all out war against Religion, their way of demanding special dispensation. It's hilarious to me that the same hiearchy that spent the last few decades aiding and abetting child molestors now wants to lecture me on moral principles. Nonetheless, they have enough power to force a compromise, even if it's the thinnest of fig leaves. Now, the same Republicans who have spent the last few years working hard to curtail any religious liberty for Muslims, is going to lecture me on the importance of religious liberty. One of the first lessons I ever learned from Charlie Brown was, "those who don't do, teach". What next, Glenn Beck lecturing me about sanity?

jwc... you know I'm right 90% of the time

JustenO, your opinions are right 100% of the time because they are your opinions.

Your "facts" tend to drag your batting average down dramatically.

However like most players with any kind of talent, some coaching will help you develop your skills.

We'll make a Liberal out of you yet, or at least a REAL independent.

We need to not alienate the brilliant males who know and understand exactly what is going on here. True, we can vote almost every one of these dorks out of office, but it will be much sweeter when we have stalwart males who understand our equality voting along side us.

This male debated quite intelligently (imo) on a seed directed toward conservative women about the Right's latest attack on womens health-care. I was arguing against trans-vaginal ultrasounds with a woman who thought they should be the law.

Any woman who belittles men in general is no better than the men that are doing the same to women.

We're all in this together lads & lasses. I would never turn down a helping hand just because it's delicate and smells nice, so cut us a little slack, OK?

RaisedbyWolves -

but it will be much sweeter when we have stalwart males who understand our equality voting along side us.

It would definitely help with the votes and all, but are they really necessary? I always told my daughter that if girls could get beyond the whole - "she developed boobs faster / sooner / more than I" which somehow is inherent biologically, then women could and should rule the world. Let's face it - women would be much better leaders. Men have only plundered and raped and stole land from others - women should rule. We care about the future generations, we care about our children, pricks like Walsh look to lawyers to get them out of their own responsibilities.

I love men in general and specifically, my husband. I've known some jerks who were men, but I've know some really rotten women, too.

We cannot generalize. The days of "girls against the boys" and "liberals vs conservatives" has got to end.

Most people I know (conservatives, moderates, and liberals alike) are sick of the divisiveness that is making any chance of compromise almost impossible to consider. I am one of them.

Is the ability of the American people to pull together based only on war and/or an attack on our shores? If it is, then that is one of the saddest things ever.

Preaching to the choir, dear! I've always said that men have been in control for 10,000 years and have made a serious hash of it. So, the next 10,000, let's take over and show them how it's done.

It does seem that when most of the world was based on matriarchal society, they were happier and healthier and didn't go to war as often.

I'm thinking you're on to something.....

Read Merlin Stone's book When God Was a Woman. It is truly a masterpiece.

If females have no say about birth control and reproductive rights, why is it that the girls in my daughter's High School who get pregnant are always the ones blamed and scorned, and the boys/fathers get "high- fives"? If everything is the responsibility of the MAN, then let the men/boys exercise restraint, and be responsible for birth control (HA! I'd like to see them bear the brunt of providing and paying for BC!) and be responsible for raising the child. Joe Walsh is scum from the Rick Santorum school of scum. So tired of this.

CMlawyer - I'm tired of it too, my pressure is rising and I have to go lie down for I feel light headed and somewhat dizzy.

All I can figure out is that men like these must really have a mommy complex. I think they must hate their mothers and take that out on all women. Believe me Rick, Joe and the rest of you, we are not your mom's.

These folks are way to obsessed with sex. Particularly other people's sex. Totally unhealthy and more than a little creepy.

These folks are way to obsessed with sex.

Republican Sex Scandals

disgusting people - Republican

Supposedly, they have no sex of their own except when breeding their women./s

Of course they're interested in what fun everyone else is having. Jealousy rears its head alongside another head and they can't help themselves.

All of those Republicans who have sex scandals.. Never used or allowed contraception /s

A lot of us wish that they would .. so not to carry on the gene pool...

Some people just shouldn't be allowed to breed. These people are some of them.

He might be in cahoots / in bed with the presiding judge.. lol

seeing the gNOp's focus on sex.....probably in bed and I'm willing to bet the judge is a MAN!

Issues like this, along with custody and even divorce can be dragged out over a period of years. As long as one party has the funds and a lawyer willing to pull every trick in the book.

The "We need more time for discover" worked great for my ex. Kept us going to court every month for nearly a year. I finally got fed up and flat out asked the Judge for a trial date. I said I was tired of the games, tired of wasting my time, his honor's time, the court's time and all that taxpayer's money. All of which could be put to far better use than seeing our faces in his courtroom every 3-4 weeks only to hear his lawyer ask for more time. Sometimes it pays to break the rules. I got my trial date set and won the trial as he and his lawyer knew I would.

The delaying tactic only works with a compliant judge. In unpaid support cases like this, where the facts are evident and the only discovery necessary comes from the defendant (his ability to pay), then a discovery order limiting all discovery (interrogatories, depositions, production of documents, etc.) to a 30- or 60-day period is all that is needed to move the case to rapid conclusion. The greatest shortcoming in our judicial system, especially in cases where a party continuously defies court orders, is the unwillingness of the judge to seek aggressive enforcement of those orders, including contempt citations and jail. Lawyers schooled in the local system and knowledgeable about local judges can easily game the system by standing up to political hacks made judges (usually unsuccessful or ready-to-retire lawyers) who are afraid to step on toes. This is particularly true in court systems where judges are popularly elected and are afraid of the local bar association opposing their re-elections. In the famous words of Lenny Bruce, "In the halls of justice, the only justice is in the halls."

One of my biggest aggravations over the whole thing, the ex and his lawyer never specified what they wanted to "discover" and no orders were ever issued in the matter. Another was when it was court ordered that we both submit to drug testing, he simply shaved his head and refused to take it. (after I gave him the money to pay for his, per the court's order) His lawyer had said judge's orders aren't worth the paper they are written on.

The courts are so clogged up with stupid crap, I honestly don't think most judges have the time or stomach to deal with it all. So it slides and slides and slides.

My guess is that the delay was caused for more non-legal reasons, like your ex's lawyer and the judge being members of the same country club. I have seen judges work in cahoots with favored lawyers to delay the outcome of a proceeding, not simply to postpone the inevitable but to give the favored lawyer representing the ultimately losing party the freedom and opportunity to pad his bill with unnecessary legal expenses performing services that were never relevant to the case nor did they impact on the outcome. All the while the party receiving the delays was only too happy - or too stupid - to understand that delaying the inevitable enriched his lawyer and the lawyer for the other side as well. And, of course, the lawyer whose client suffered from the delay couldn't report these shennanigans to the Committee on Judicial Conduct because doing so would be virtually the end of that attorney's career in that county or state.

You are probably right. The judge was mightily displeased with the ex's counsel when during the trial. Judges expect embellishments but will not tolerate outright lies in their courtroom.

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::shakes head:: next they'll say women don't have souls.

Pertaining to birth control ... Depends on how deeply the male of the species sets his 'goal' ..

Women have souls.. I can contest to that...Not to brag.. but when I was a mere lad.. I brought much excitement to this one young lady, that I felt I reached her inner soul ...

Again, even if it was about religious objections does this mean women don't have religion?

You beat me to it. I'd ask the same questions

Par, the women having no souls thing - that has been debated in the past.

I know many women in my time -before and through my marriage of 37plus years to a woman.. that they have a great soul / Personality and reverence for many things.. This schmuck and his ilk have proven only one thing .. that they personally do not have a soul .. Character proves many things to me.. and one of these proven aspects, is Respect, Consideration, and a Understanding about women and what roles women play in our world. Without women.. our humanity would of died out a long time ago..

His ex-wife is very lucky to have rid herself of this scum..

Using "religious" freedom as the argument to keep women OUT is against the US Consdtitution and the 1st Amendment!

Walsh is probably invoking Congressional immunity while hiring a lawyer who will use every stalling tactic in the legal book. In the end, this man will write a very big check to his ex-wife, plus interest, plus attorney fees, plus court costs.

In the end, this man will write a very big check to his ex-wife, plus interest, plus attorney fees, plus court costs.

I wouldn't be surprised if he drags this out until after the election (which he will hopefully lose) and then declare bankruptcy so that he doesn't have to pay up. It is a shame that he can make children, but he doesn't seem to care about them enough to pay for them.

I'm pretty sure you can't get that debt discharge by bankruptcy.....

I'm pretty sure you can't get that debt discharge by bankruptcy.....

I would hope not. But, given Walsh's sketchy financial history, I would not be surprised by any stunts he might pull.

He'll just put all of his assets in his girlfriend's name....Oh, he already did that!

What happened to people being ashamed of such behavior? Now he's being treated like a hero? Why is he even talking out in public, why isn't he sitting in jail?

You'd think none of them had mothers. Then on second thought...the species they are?!! If they did,(says not sure here) I wish they'd respect her enough to care about other women. CARE not control, they aren't the same just because they start with the same letter.

Carloz I'm glad you had all the pertinent facts in your headline.

Especially since most of those "religious" affiliations take government money to survive.

They get money for medicaid/medicare, and they get federal grants for research. As long as they're benefiting from our federal tax dollars, then they should ALSO have to abide by federal law. Or get the hell out of the for-profit university and hospital business.

I believe we are. Thousands went to protest Virginia's state mandated rape "ultrasound" bill, and the GOTP governor has backed off ... a little.

They also LIED and claimed they didn't realize how invasive such a procedure was. Then they rewrote it (still mandating unnecessary and expensive procedures in order for women to get another LEGAL medical procedure done - for no other purpose than to shame and bully women into not exercising their RIGHT of choice). And now the GOTP senators have said they'll bury the bill unless they get their intravaginal ultrasounds.

But women ARE waking up. And the GOTP will find that they've poked a slumbering bear once too often. We WILL fight back. We're over 50% of the electorate. They marginalize and belittle us and our concerns at their own political risk.

Illinois has 2 of the absolute worst Republican Congresscrooks in history - Joe Walsh & Mark Kirk!

Mark Kirk is the biggest liar and fraud anyone ever heard of!

First off, I live in the district that Kirk represented before he became a Senator, I have never voted for him and never would. But, he is not nearly the "dooshbag" that Walsh is. Yes Kirk lied about some of his service accomplishments, but he has been a strong environmentalist. There are far worse (including Peter Roskam, Jessie Jackson, Jr and Daniel Lipinski). Don't forget, we had Hyde, Hastert and Rostenkowski in the past.

I live in the Chicago area too...

They are both arrogant dooshbags! Walsh by a hair for dooshbag of the year!

But Kirk lied "about some of his service"? Really?
He completely lied about it. He gave a number of speeches claiming he was "Intelligence Officer of the Year".
There is NO such award...the unit he was a member of was awarded the award - "Vice Admiral Rufus L. Taylor Award".

What kind of person lies about his military service in multiple speeches and completely makes up a fake hero award so he can get electd?

Jesse Jackson Jr is a saint compared to this lying PoS!

He completely lied about it. He gave a number of speeches claiming he was "Intelligence Officer of the Year".

I agree that he completely lied about the award. I really don't understand why he did it. He has served in the military and did not need to lie about about this award. I think he was going to beat his opponent anyway. I don't think he is the brightest bulb in the chandelier.

Ain't that the truth. But given all the lies and excuses he's made about not paying child support and shirking his fatherly duties - it's clear he's either a psychopath or a drug addict!

He should be in jail - what does he owe like $150,000 in back child support?
He has no right whatsoever to say anything about contraceptives, abortions or any other public issue.

Agree.. Hypocrisy should be placed in the middle of "Republican Party".. as: Republican Hypocrite Party.

I'd suggest it isn't about BIRTH control, but CONTROL, period! Such foolish creatures, men. At least too many GOTP men!!

As a male Democrat.. I'm all for women's rights.. Which shouldn't even be a discussion..men automatically have rights.. why do women have to fight for the same ? To me this entire thing is ridiculous and it puts women in a position where they have to beg to get the same thing. Schmucks like this should be in prison or floating on a small slow melting iceberg...