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Komen Fallout - Planned Parenthood: 'Political bullies' have been put on alert; NARAL: 'Let's build on this great victory'

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Susan G. Komen For the Cure's reversal of its decision to cut funding for Planned Parenthood is being called -- in some corners -- a "watershed" moment that sends a powerful election-year message: "Political bullies" can no longer politicize a woman's access to healthcare.

That's what Cecile Richards, president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America, said during a media conference call Friday. The call centered on the nonprofit healthcare organization's response to Komen's decision to back down on the matter after days of being cast in an overwhelmingly negative light.

The issue struck a chord with many Americans, Richards said, adding that the public has made it clear that it will no longer stand for "political bullying." "I think folks are just saying 'enough,'" she said.

"Bullying and trying to make political women's access to healthcare is just a losing political strategy," she said...

"I hope there are members of Congress who will rethink their attacks…on Planned Parenthood and on women’s health.”

Anger over Komen’s funding decision spread quickly through Facebook and Twitter, a grassroots outcry that hit harder than familiar Washington infighting...

NARAL Pro-Choice America also saw greater potential in the Komen saga.

“Let’s build on this great victory,” NARAL said in a statement. “Right now, politicians in Congress are trying to take away contraceptive coverage for women. Let’s raise our voices to stop this additional attack on health-care options and score another win for women.”

...Americans United for Life, which had pushed Komen to sever its ties with Planned Parenthood, did not respond to a request for comment on the group’s reversal Friday. But Republican lawmakers said they were disappointed and that Komen had it right the first time.

“I’m extremely disappointed in Komen’s decision to restore Planned Parenthood’s eligibility for funding,” Sen. David Vitter (R-La.) said in a statement. “While Komen now claims that they don’t want their mission to be ‘marred by politics,’ unfortunately it seems that Komen caved to political pressure from the pro-abortion movement and its enforcers in the media.”

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Carloz

In the span of just three days, Planned Parenthood ended up winning this specific battle, coming out way ahead financially, and potentially gaining ground in the larger battle.

Good news!

  • 25 votes
#1 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 8:35 AM EST
RI Mom

Fund raising was in severe jeopardy for SGK...

.....everything from yogurt, Estee Lauder makeup, teddy bears, jewelry, New Balance sneakers and magnetic pink ribbons for your car could have been pulled by the sponsors.

With a $650,000 donation to PP, SGK could have simplified their intentions by assuring their donors that the $650,000 amount was in RESTRICTED FUNDS...only for breast exams.

All their warts are now exposed...suing over 100 non-profits for using the phrase "for the cure"...and highlighting the questionable resume of Handel and the protest resignations from top administrators.

Still, the damage done by the likes of Lila Rose with her hoax youtube has inflamed the angriest myopic extremists who were CLUELESS about any SGK donation until this happened.

Charity Navigator and Guide Star web-sites are easily available on the internet to check on your non-profits. Shame on the protestors who felt "duped" for not using them.

Women's reproduction (?) seems to be an obsession with the GOP....and oddly enough, not a word about the man's culpability for inflicting rape or incest.

  • 28 votes
#1.1 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 9:37 AM EST
Carloz

Well said, RI Mom -- all of this could have been avoided, and the Komen Foundation really has only itself to blame.

  • 15 votes
#1.2 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 9:45 AM EST
RI Mom

From the article:

What the hell does this mean?:

political pressure from the pro-abortion movement

? ? ? ?

pro-abortion movement

? ? ?

This hyperbole is is such foolishness....it makes me want to scream. The authors of this phrase are severely wanton in any kind of reality.

NONE of these rabble rousers has ever been seen offering a helping hand to the millions of poverty kids in America.

The is no such thing as pro-abortion.

Why can't this discussion on a women's right to make a personal decision remain as her own guideline?

This nonsensical "movement" does not have a leader,an address or a following.

Time to snap back at these inflammatory remarks and set the record straight.

  • 22 votes
#1.3 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 10:10 AM EST
3rdtime

exactly! (Vine lowered my case---I inteneded to yell that!)

  • 8 votes
#1.4 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 10:28 AM EST
Carloz

pro-abortion movement

? ? ?

This hyperbole is is such foolishness....it makes me want to scream. The authors of this phrase are severely wanton in any kind of reality.

Well, in this case, the fact that it was Senator David Vitter using it speaks volumes.

  • 12 votes
#1.5 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 10:35 AM EST
Zoolopolis

For once the best are full of passionate intensity, while the worst lack all conviction.

Evil succeeds when good people do nothing.

  • 11 votes
#1.6 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 11:29 AM EST
Shelby Davenport

"pro-abortion" - Do I smell Frank Luntz?

  • 12 votes
#1.7 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 11:37 AM EST
jwc2blue

Do I smell Frank Luntz?

Or something equally disgusting...

  • 12 votes
#1.8 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 11:52 AM EST
rimbauda

SGK's talent is in promotion and public relations: they are not a health care organization but a fund-raising organization (on behalf of breast cancer). How could they make such a big mistake? What happened to their prodigious public relations talent?

  • 6 votes
#1.9 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 12:28 PM EST
Shelby Davenport

Goes back to one of my questions:

Are they really that stupid to inject politics into the equation?

  • 10 votes
#1.10 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 12:30 PM EST
Carloz

Are they really that stupid to inject politics into the equation?

Apparently they were.

  • 10 votes
#1.11 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 12:39 PM EST
Canadian Dave

Did Vitter make his statement from the "changing room" of the Dulles Airport?

  • 9 votes
#1.12 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 12:52 PM EST
Z1P2

Susan G. Komen For the Cure's reversal of its decision to cut funding for Planned Parenthood is being called -- in some corners -- a "watershed" moment that sends a powerful election-year message: "Political bullies" can no longer politicize a woman's access to healthcare.

The only thing SGK did was say that PP could APPLY next year... they still are withholding the grant this year, and based on the crazy lady at SGK's comments there's little chance their application would be approved next year either; so how is that a watershed moment? It was ALL a PR stunt to get outrage to die down a bit and to restore some of the donations that people have been withholding from SGK, that's all, nothing more.

  • 7 votes
#1.13 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 5:27 PM EST
scott-1148057

ah...see, the victory though was the victory of RIGHTEOUSNESS!!!

victory #1. komen suspended its donations

victory#2. many donater's followed Komen and withdrew funds

Victory#3. plannedparenthood has had crippling press coverage

victory#4. the mask has been pulled off of pp's so-called mamogram program(they give referals, they don't do mam's)

victory#5. every news outlet has had to carry this story so now people know pp gets 330 million in American tax dollars every year

victory #6.Americans now know pp is the worlds number one provider of abortions

victory #7. Americans now know pp isn't in business for womens health issues, it's all about how many abortions they can perform

victory #8. being that this is a huge step in the defunding of pp, it will be made known to Americans who comes to pp's aid, so those people and organizations can be boycotted

victory #9. this has put the spotlight on organizations that actually help women before AND AFTER a pregnancy or an abortion cause NOW people see pp does nothing for the trauma that ensues once a woman realizes "hey I just killed my baby!" so while pp slithers away from the woman here comes the pregnancy crisis centers to clean up what pp has destroyed....but this is what is so great is now Americans are seeing this on every news station!!!

  • 1 vote
#1.14 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 5:35 PM EST
Par4TheCourse

LOL !!!

victory #7. Americans now know pp isn't in business for womens health issues, it's all about how many abortions they can perform

The mis-information machine...

  • 10 votes
#1.15 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 5:47 PM EST
scott-1148057

The mis-information machine... here is your REAL information http://www.abortionbreastcancer.com/index/

  • 1 vote
#1.16 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 6:19 PM EST
Par4TheCourse

This is a Bias site.. I wouldn't believe them even if their tongues came notarized.

  • 9 votes
#1.17 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 6:30 PM EST
scott-1148057Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

This is a Bias site.. I wouldn't believe them even if their tongues came notarized.... thats a good liberal, keep your head in the sand, or a good litttle "Pontious Pilate" "truth, what is truth?" truth is what you make it ,right? thats the liberal motto

  • 1 vote
#1.18 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 6:34 PM EST
Par4TheCourse

R o f l m f a o !!

Keep the routine going.. great jokes for a good stand up

I'm writing a book about brainwashed wingnuts.. and you've added a few hundred words to the book .. thanks!!

  • 8 votes
#1.19 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 6:36 PM EST
SW Missouri Mule

Planned Parenthood raised $3 mil in 72 hours thanks to Komen's "victory." How much did Komen raise in that time frame?

  • 9 votes
#1.20 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 6:40 PM EST
scott-1148057

Planned Parenthood raised $3 mil in 72 hours thanks to Komen's "victory." How much did Komen raise in that time frame? ...who cares for one thing , this is about America seeing pp for what they really are!!! But backing up for a min, for people who loved and praised komen a week ago, seems hypocritical to want them to fail now!!

    #1.21 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 6:48 PM EST
    Par4TheCourse

    SW Missouri Mule

    That's fantastic !! Did you also hear/read that Ari Fletcher ..Junior's press secretary .. is the one that was conferring with Komen on that decision.. Wouldn't ya know someone from his administration would screw something up..

    ---

    Scott - You are generalizing .. you cannot generalize .. only when it comes to the Teabagger-Republican-Hypocrite party can be hypocrites.. they do that very well.

    • 8 votes
    #1.22 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 6:56 PM EST
    MarkD-555

    ... here is your REAL information

    Oh not this abortion/breast cancer stupid right wing lie again. Having a baby reduces breast cancer risk.

    Any female has this so called "increased risk" from not having a baby at every opportunity.

    Should everyone have as many babies as possible to reduce risk?

    • 8 votes
    #1.23 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 7:12 PM EST
    scott-1148057Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Scott - You are generalizing .. you cannot generalize .....truth hurts ,doesn't it? the demon-crat liberal party invented the word "hypocritical" they can (abort) kill a baby but want to save a moose in Alaska,hence no oil production for America.

    • 1 vote
    #1.24 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 7:17 PM EST
    Par4TheCourse

    What's it like being a Troll ?

    • 9 votes
    #1.25 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 7:25 PM EST
    scott-1148057

    What's it like being a Troll ?....lets see....troll(whatever that is) or archaic infanticide promoter.....um, I'll take troll 8 days a week!!!

      #1.26 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 7:36 PM EST
      OomYaaqub

      The is no such thing as pro-abortion.

      There is no such thing as "antichoice" because nobody opposes all choices. They only oppose particular actions, in this case killing your own preborn child.

      I have personally known people who were proabortion but not prochoice. That is, they believed in forced abortion, for minors for example, but sometimes even for prisoners and the like. Sorry, but such monsters do exist. My own father was one.

      • 2 votes
      #1.27 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 8:28 PM EST
      Par4TheCourse

      This has to be the Twilight Zone

      • 6 votes
      #1.28 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 9:11 PM EST
      Lola-984242

      There are only 2 choices, 1. is give birth, and 2. is not give birth. There is no other choice when pregnant.

      • 7 votes
      #1.29 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 9:18 PM EST
      rimbauda

      You don't like contraception? Why not influence the choice, instead of the availability? You don't like abortion? Why not influence the choice, instead of punishing the health provider? Spread you belief, instead of compelling compliance with it. (I come from an era in which abortions were a "back alley" procedure).

      • 6 votes
      #1.30 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 9:29 PM EST
      Z1P2

      scott, you seem to love lieing... how do you think your God feels about that?? Do you really think you can do anything righteous by lieing??

      • 3 votes
      #1.31 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 6:01 PM EST
      Reply
      Dave-661352

      I still believe there is no such thing as a pro-abortion advocate. No one in their right mind wishes for abortion. Pro-choice is the issue.

      • 21 votes
      Reply#2 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 8:36 AM EST
      Carloz

      Pro-abortion is simply the misnomer some on the Right use to label those of us who support a woman's right to choose. I don't know anyone who is pro-abortion.

      • 25 votes
      #2.1 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 8:42 AM EST
      Lola-984242

      Neither do I. All I've ever met are people who beleive women have no other choice but to carry their pregnancy to term (anti-choice) and people who believe the woman is the person who has the right to make her choice whether to continue with her pregnancy or not (pro-choice).

      • 15 votes
      #2.2 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 10:25 AM EST
      Thinknaboutit

      Since they are attacking an organization that defends the rights of a woman to choose, I guess that makes them anti-womens rights.

      • 17 votes
      #2.3 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 10:32 AM EST
      TooManyPuppies

      most pro choice people are actually pro-life. Most wouldnt consider an abortion for themselves under normal circumstances, but they believe that their are times when a woman deserves a right to choose and that their shouldnt be laws in place that make her choose the stairs over giving birth.

      • 13 votes
      #2.4 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 11:08 AM EST
      vttova

      I have to admit, there are certain segments of society that I would be pro-abortion regarding.
      About 35 years late though....sigh

      • 6 votes
      #2.5 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 11:09 AM EST
      American Spirit

      In the span of just three days, Planned Parenthood ended up winning this specific battle

      There should be another negative anti-choice "choice" with the Superbowl commercial airing tomorrow in some markets. No matter your stance on the matter, people don't want their kids seeing that during the biggest viewing game of the year. The fallout will not be good to those who wanted it played.

      The two incidents together should about put the common image of the term 'anti-abortion' person on the same platform of Fred Phelps. They are both legal (gays and abortion). They need to deal with it already and quit terrorizing others who don't think like the do.

      • 7 votes
      #2.6 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 12:39 PM EST
      3rdtime

      Of course, there will be no mention of the fact that 90% of all abortions are performed in the first trimester or that later proedures are mostly due to health problems or delays caused by financia difficulties. Raising the cost of an abortion by requiring uneeded proceedures like ultrasounds, heartbeat amplification, or multiple office visits will only increase these.

      • 6 votes
      #2.7 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 1:52 PM EST
      scott-1148057

      Pro-abortion is simply the misnomer some on the Right use to label those of us who support a woman's right to choose. I don't know anyone who is pro-abortion....right to choose what? kill your baby , sounds pretty sick!

        #2.8 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 7:19 PM EST
        Lola-984242

        Women who kill their babies go to jail. Google Andrea Yates, Susan Smith, and Darlir Routier.

        • 7 votes
        #2.9 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 8:17 PM EST
        OomYaaqub

        Pro-abortion is simply the misnomer some on the Right use

        see my post 1.27 above. Of course some people are proabortion, and not only in the examples I gave. In midler forms this happens all the time. There are husbands, boyfriends, and even girlfriends who strongly pressure the woman to abort, for instance. That's being proabortion, not prochoice. In the case of the husband or boyfriend, it's also an example of how "feminism" has made it socially acceptable for a man to be an irresponsible jerk.

          #2.10 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 8:33 PM EST
          rimbauda

          pro-abortion advocate: how about we make abortion mandatory unless two Christian parents, one man, one woman, come forward to commit to parenthood of the child.

          • 5 votes
          #2.11 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 9:32 PM EST
          Reply
          Rick_VT

          I've NEVER met anyone that is pro-abortion. I know many that are firmly pro-choice. The far right uses the "pro-abortion" term to polarize and indoctrinate the weak of mind.

          • 22 votes
          Reply#3 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 8:53 AM EST
          OomYaaqub

          Maybe you haven't. I have.

            #3.1 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 8:34 PM EST
            Reply
            demdame

            As long as Komen has a place for Karen Handel, they will not have my support.

            • 23 votes
            Reply#4 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 8:58 AM EST
            Studiusbagus

            I'm wondering aloud if this will have a permanent bruise on Koman and they end up tipping the scale too far.

            The overwhelming response and the negative spotlight connecting them to the right may have sunk them from the liberal cash flow. Look for either a white knight or name change, maybe some other overt salvage work in the near future. But I think they will forever be remembered for this political move.

            • 14 votes
            Reply#5 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 8:58 AM EST
            petridishofideas

            Stu....there are too many charities that actually fund research and not litigation to send you charity $$$$. sgk will never knowingly get another dime from me. If any of the others want to have walks, runs, shirts, or whatever....I'm game!

            • 6 votes
            #5.1 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 4:55 PM EST
            Reply
            outragious

            Until SGK gets rid of Handel and others like her within this organization- I won't donate or purchase a damn thing from them!!

            It is more than extremely coincidental the "new criteria" was drafted shortly after Handel's hiring at SGK and the "investigation" starting a month later.

            As one Viner put it, "SGK can't un-ring this bell!"

            People now see them for the corrupt, manipulating, anti-choice Kommie Foundation that they are....

            • 16 votes
            Reply#6 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 9:04 AM EST
            Better Careful

            Right-wing politics are attractive to authoritarian personalities. These folks cannot see a world beyond their urges and personal requirements. They cannot conceive of undesired or undesirable consequences; they disavow accountability.

            It follows that this current example of right-wing stupidity would backfire. No matter to them, I don't think: by now they'll have this all spun around to assign blame for the consequences of their own actions on others. And the cycle of stupidity will repeat.

            Authoritarians are powerless over their own stupidity. They cannot help but be stupid, for they are out of touch with reality. Damn that pesky reality, anyhow!

            • 12 votes
            Reply#7 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 9:28 AM EST
            vttova

            I already got a post from a cousin that suggested that it's PPH's fault for 'refusing to disclose ' how their grant money is spent.
            I can only assume that came from FAUX news, at it is always on in that household.
            ...you can pick your friends....

            • 12 votes
            #7.1 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 11:13 AM EST
            roadhead

            Damn that pesky reality, anyhow!

            You are close in your definition BC, but you forgot to add the "liberal, commie, marxist, unAmerican, muslim, fascist, socialist, kitchen sink" tag to demean that reality, like all the rwnjs will do.

            After all, anything that doesn't agree with their warped view, is the fault of someone else and those people should be required to go live in some other country.

            • 3 votes
            #7.2 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 2:35 PM EST
            scott-1148057

            This is a Bias site.. I wouldn't believe them even if their tongues came notarized.... thats a good liberal, keep your head in the sand, or a good litttle "Pontious Pilate" "truth, what is truth?" truth is what you make it ,right? thats the liberal motto

              #7.3 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 7:43 PM EST
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              JayTee-3231157Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              Only Liberals would call killing a baby in the womb "access to Healthcare".

              The good thing about Liberals and progressives and planned Parenthood, is that it reduces the number of future representatives that will be alive to possibly represent their parent's ideals.

                #8 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 9:52 AM EST
                stubby-phillips

                hate much or are U just a teaparty normal person?

                oh - by your profile and the other ducks you associate with, you are teaparty normal. I guess you have an excuse to hate even if a poor one

                • 14 votes
                #8.1 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 10:10 AM EST
                outragious

                Get on your knees and thank Liberals for contributing to your so-called "social conservation" efforts! We know how you guys hate to provide "entitlements" to the poor with food stamps, housing assistance and medical care AFTER they're BORN!!!!!

                • 15 votes
                #8.2 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 10:12 AM EST
                RI Mom

                #8

                JayTee-3231157

                I guarantee that even among the staunchest Republican woman, many have been raped or been subjected to incest.

                Their counseling and agonizing decision to have an abortion was personal.

                The Republican Party did not toss them out....

                but if YOUR daughter, wife, sister, mother, lover had been brutalized, beaten, scarred, humiliated.... would YOU be the LAST person that woman would go to for comfort and understanding?

                • 17 votes
                #8.3 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 10:19 AM EST
                Lola-984242

                I hate to break it to ya JayTee but right wing conservative republicans have abortions too. They also have late term abortions. I personally know of one such right wing conservative republican who had a late term abortion, and then there's Rick Santorum's wife who had a late term abortion.

                • 19 votes
                #8.4 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 10:31 AM EST
                Par4TheCourse

                People who are blind to the facts, and they have strings attached like puppets.. are only mimicking that of their masters. Independent thought is rare from the fringe elements .. the collective has control over those who say they are individuals. They lose their freedom by association with those who control their every word.. thinking for oneself is against their collective.

                It is the same words just a different people saying them.. We should not fault the individual which is part of the collective because they haven't any control.. propaganda is propaganda whether their masters say it or if their slaves repeat it.

                • 11 votes
                #8.5 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 11:06 AM EST
                TooManyPuppies

                LOL only a right winger would call funding for breast exams, support for Abortion.

                Only a right winger would call funding for breast exams to catch cancer in its early stages, IS NOT HEALTH CARE FOR WOMEN.

                Only a right winger thinks all aborted babies are liberals. Only a right winger thinks the kids of any one will automagically be the same party of their parents.

                Which is one of a million reasons why I would never be a right winger,

                • 19 votes
                #8.6 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 11:12 AM EST
                outragious

                ...thinking for oneself is against their collective.

                Its their "Borg" mentality...lol...

                • 15 votes
                #8.7 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 11:14 AM EST
                Par4TheCourse

                Its their "Borg" mentality...lol...

                LOL .. yes.. without the 'ity'

                • 9 votes
                #8.8 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 11:22 AM EST
                Shelby Davenport

                Unfortunately, Jay Tee, you have not convinced me. You use the same Fox News bumper sticker talking points and no original thinking.

                • 12 votes
                #8.9 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 11:39 AM EST
                tristen350

                Might I add, with a thought conviction so small the bumper sticker it would fit would be on a Tonka toy.

                • 10 votes
                #8.10 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 12:07 PM EST
                J. W. Welch

                Jay Tee

                You might find life more pleasant if you could avoid sticking your nose in other people's private business.

                • 12 votes
                #8.11 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 12:15 PM EST
                Par4TheCourse

                You might find life more pleasant if you could avoid sticking your nose in other people's private business.

                ... and again... The 'right' wants smaller government.. they want 'government' out of their business... But by their very cause and concerns.. they are hypocrites.. They speak out of both sides of their mouth.. As in the old "Lone Ranger & Tonto" shows... "You speak with forked tongue".. You cannot pick and choose what you want government to invade.. if you are against government invading... No wonder wingnuts and fanatics on that side are so damn confused and sound imbecilic.

                • 7 votes
                #8.12 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 12:31 PM EST
                JayTee-3231157

                Geez, I must have hit a Pregressive "nerve" Just pointing out the facts about planned parenthood and it's associated "Activities".

                Now the haters come out of the basement to accuse me of hating something of which I not quite sure ?

                Would someone please ID the "Hate quote" of which they're accusing me ? Otherwise, I assume it's a guilt justification reaction to the facts (sonogram) staring the progressives in the face, which is what Planned Parenthood sponsors.

                  #8.13 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 12:33 PM EST
                  Carloz

                  Would someone please ID the "Hate quote" of which they're accusing me ?

                  Maybe in Bizzaro World the following communicates 'love,' but in the real world it communicates just the opposite:

                  The good thing about Liberals and progressives and planned Parenthood, is that it reduces the number of future representatives that will be alive to possibly represent their parent's ideals.

                  • 15 votes
                  #8.14 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 12:45 PM EST
                  JayTee-3231157

                  It's one thing not to like a particular opinion, but it's another thing to ignore the facts.

                  Abortion reduces the birth rate, and particularly those who use Abortion. Any questions ?

                  Planned parenthood intervetion and subsequent offer of their readily available Abortion services, has a rather deadly effect on the Fetus. One can hardly refer to it as healthcare.

                    #8.15 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 4:27 PM EST
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                    jwc2blue

                    Komen's decision to restore funding is a carefully worded, half-hearted attempt at placation.

                    Read between the lines.

                    Komen and sponsors will not ever see a penny from me again.

                    • 22 votes
                    Reply#9 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 11:03 AM EST
                    Par4TheCourse

                    jwc2blue.. I agree.. I will do exactly what Bloomberg did.. send a check directly to Planned Parenthood... bypassing Komen...

                    • 18 votes
                    #9.1 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 11:08 AM EST
                    jwc2blue

                    Par, did Bloomberg actually give that much? I was under the impression that he was matching donations up to $250,000.

                    Never mind. Here it is. http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/02/bloomberg-gives-matching-gift-to-planned-parenthood-113325.html

                    ...announcing he will give a $250,000 matching gift to PP "to help defray the loss of the Komen funds," a

                    • 10 votes
                    #9.2 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 11:21 AM EST
                    Par4TheCourse

                    I think he has the money.. he will make his mortgage payment this month.. lol

                    • 11 votes
                    #9.3 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 11:23 AM EST
                    jwc2blue

                    he will make his mortgage payment this month.. lol

                    Now if only I could get him to make mine...

                    • 10 votes
                    #9.4 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 11:54 AM EST
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                    TooManyPuppies

                    I find it interesting that this very right wing and republican charity, is getting viciously attacked by the right for going back on the funding.

                    They might as well close shop. The right dont want to donate to them anymore because they will give money to planned parenthood specifically for breast exams and they dont want the poor to get health care.

                    And the left wont donate to them, due to the rabid social conservative on the komen board.

                    They really screwed themselves which is quite typical for a right wing establishment.

                    • 14 votes
                    Reply#10 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 11:15 AM EST
                    Par4TheCourse

                    They really screwed themselves which is quite typical for a right wing establishment.

                    ....and the "incestrial love" that they have for themselves.

                    • 10 votes
                    #10.1 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 11:18 AM EST
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                    reddirthippy

                    Komen claims on their website they want to build a grassroots effort.

                    I hope all those that use the term grassroots are paying attention to this great example.

                    Grassroots are not built they are a spontaneous reaction. The tea group started out that way but were quickly subjugated by the GOP. The Occupy movement is grassroots and so far(fingers crossed) has avoided subjegation.

                    “Let’s build on this great victory,” NARAL said in a statement. “Right now, politicians in Congress are trying to take away contraceptive coverage for women. Let’s raise our voices to stop this additional attack on health-care options and score another win for women.”

                    Having them say that just destoryed the 'grassroots' nature of the opposition.

                    • 5 votes
                    Reply#11 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 11:53 AM EST
                    J. W. Welch

                    reddirthippy

                    "Komen claims on their website they want to build a grassroots effort." Really?

                    I could have sworn they already had a significant grass roots effort in place before they went stupid.

                    • 8 votes
                    #11.1 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 12:20 PM EST
                    American Spirit

                    Having them say that just destoryed the 'grassroots' nature of the opposition.

                    The timing may be perfect to get a lot out to work on this election coming up for seats at the local, state and federal level. We must stop this war against women. The most effective way of doing so is doing so with our vote.

                    • 6 votes
                    #11.2 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 12:43 PM EST
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                    SW Missouri Mule

                    The Komen brand was getting watered down. They were saturating the market with pink and I, personally, was getting tired of their "any and every corporate sponsor is good." Adopt the pink ribbon and suddenly your company cares for women regardless of their history. Who checks? Who bothers to look beyond the ribbon once it's stuck on the product?

                    http://ww5.komen.org/corporatepartners.aspx

                    • 9 votes
                    Reply#12 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 12:12 PM EST
                    J. W. Welch

                    SW M M

                    One should always make hay while the sun shines.

                    • 5 votes
                    #12.1 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 12:21 PM EST
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                    RI Mom

                    To the PRO-LIFE FOLKS

                    Want to save a child?

                    Anyone got a list of GOP programs or congress folks who are concerned about the realities of our American charity towards our young?

                    The most recent estimates, sixteen million children live in poverty in the United States -- a climb of some three million from 2007.

                    Seventeen million children live in households thatlack food security, meaning they do not always know where their next meal is coming from.

                    All told, there were about 1.6 million homeless children in the U.S.

                    in 2010, living in shelters, motels, on the streets or temporarily with other families, according to a recent report from the National Center on Family Homelessness. That's a rise of almost 40 percent since 2007.

                    All the self righteous pro-life mouthpieces have EVERY OPPORTUNITY to support LIFE....

                    Pro LIFE means

                    clean water

                    clean air

                    education

                    healthcare for all

                    nutrition

                    decent housing

                    and taking care of the neediest kids.

                    • 15 votes
                    Reply#13 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 12:40 PM EST
                    American Spirit

                    Thousands of children die daily of starvation. The pro-life movement never touched them.

                    To force others into this world when others are dying without help is quite cruel. That simply proves the pro-life movement is not about life at all. Those sorts are obsessed about anything dealing with sex.

                    • 10 votes
                    #13.1 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 12:47 PM EST
                    Carloz

                    I know I'm repeating myself, but:

                    Well said, RI Mom

                    !!!!

                    • 11 votes
                    #13.2 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 12:49 PM EST
                    Par4TheCourse

                    As Romney would like to think .. that all the poor are taken care of..

                    • 8 votes
                    #13.3 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 12:59 PM EST
                    RI Mom

                    1.6 HOMELESS kids....makes me so angry when extremist zealots ignore this travesty.

                    Kids living week to week in motels, or in a car....and somehow wannabe presidential candidates never mention this.

                    Abortion is personal.

                    Cancer is an equal opportunity health issue.

                    Poverty is FIXABLE.

                    • 10 votes
                    #13.4 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 1:02 PM EST
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                    Joanna Caroll

                    "Political bullies" can no longer politicize a woman's access to health care.

                    Not so. Political bullies bully women at every turn.

                    This from the Virginia senate:

                    The measure passed Wednesday would require a woman to undergo an ultrasound to determine the gestation age of the fetus and be given an opportunity to view the pictures. A woman who refuses to view the ultrasound would have to sign a statement — which would become a part of her medical file — saying she was given the option. The bill also would require the abortion provider to keep a printed copy of the image in the patient’s file.

                    The asinine supporters of these quack GOP legislators have the gall to squawk about health care reform and yet these cowardly, backward, uneducated, regressive, bullying men and women have no problem with bull@!$%# laws like this. It's people like this that are the ruin of civilization.

                    • 9 votes
                    Reply#14 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 12:50 PM EST
                    GoldenGateMami_Susi

                    I saw a disturbing comment on the SGK facebook page

                    A woman posted that if her daughter was terminally ill and her only option was to receive services at Planned Parenthood she would rather see her daughter die than step foot inside a clinic and if her daughter ever did, even if she was on her deathbed she would disown her and not attend her funeral.

                    The depths to which these people cling to their bible fed hysteria knows no bounds.

                    The party of family values and the faith of love thy neighbor as thou love yourself.

                    The inspiring thing is that one comment even brought the ire of people who are pro-life but felt ashamed at her comment.

                    • 13 votes
                    Reply#15 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 1:48 PM EST
                    American Spirit

                    People who put an old religious textbook in front of their child have no grasp of how evil doing so really is.

                    • 9 votes
                    #15.1 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 1:57 PM EST
                    GoldenGateMami_Susi

                    Can you ever imagine being so myopic that you would put your personal beliefs above your child?

                    • 10 votes
                    #15.2 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 2:19 PM EST
                    American Spirit

                    It simply shows how ill religion can make so many minds. It destroyed their ability to totally nurture a child.

                    • 9 votes
                    #15.3 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 2:30 PM EST
                    Buddy-498384

                    What type of terminal illnesses do they treat at Planned Parenthood?

                    • 1 vote
                    #15.4 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 6:45 PM EST
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                    RNDiane

                    People are so stupid. No one is pro abortion. No woman wants to have an abortion. It is one of the most difficult decisions any woman has to face. But many of us are PRO CHOICE. There is a difference.

                    It is not my decision to tell any other woman what to do about her pregnancy. That is her decision. Because it is her body, her conscious and her future that are at stake.

                    I am so tired of these blow hards referring to pro choice as pro abortion. What a bunch of pious jackasses.

                    • 10 votes
                    Reply#16 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 2:13 PM EST
                    Par4TheCourse

                    I agree..

                    What a bunch of pious jackasses.

                    ...and that's putting it mildly

                    • 7 votes
                    #16.1 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 2:23 PM EST
                    Buddy-498384

                    I have to respectfully disagree, in some cases. There are women who are willing to have unprotected sex because they know they can have an abortion if they get pregnant. The real choice comes in when a woman chooses to have unprotected sex - and I am talking about when she has a choice, not in a case of rape or incest. There are women who have had multiple abortions because they chose multiple times to have unprotected sex. Not a difficult decision for all women; they've already made the choice before they get pregnant.

                    • 1 vote
                    #16.2 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 7:06 PM EST
                    SW Missouri Mule

                    If HE would put a sock on it, Buddy, she won't get pregnant! No pregnancy, no abortion.

                    • 8 votes
                    #16.3 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 7:33 PM EST
                    tyler-1708225

                    What's the difference to the child being snuffed out if you call it pro-abortion versus pro-choice?

                    • 2 votes
                    #16.4 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 7:55 PM EST
                    Par4TheCourse

                    There are women who are willing to have unprotected sex because they know they can have an abortion if they get pregnant.

                    Let's investigate more into this statement: So.. they are willing to save a few dollars for a condom or the pill...in order to spend the hundreds later and or the procedure to have an abortion? Can anyone else tell me why a woman would place herself in a procedure to have an abortion when it cost a few dollars to prevent this procedure?

                    It is totally illogical.

                    • 7 votes
                    #16.5 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 10:51 PM EST
                    Buddy-498384

                    So, Par4TheCourse,

                    Because it's illogical means it doesn't happen? Who said it has anything to do with money? Are you saying that, in the heat of the moment, all women who are not using protection say, "Wait, stop!" and run out and get a condom? According to your logic, all women who can afford birth control use it. If that is the case, why are there so many abortions? It's not only poor women who get abortions.

                      #16.6 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 10:53 PM EST
                      RNDiane

                      Buddy: I want the names of these women that you say intentionally fail to use birth control so they can have an abortion. I want to have a talk with them. You have no idea what you are talking about.

                      • 7 votes
                      #16.7 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:00 AM EST
                      Buddy-498384

                      RN Diane,

                      I did NOT say women are purposefully getting pregnant so they can have abortions. I am saying they are willing to forego using contraception because they know an abortion can bail them out of an unwanted pregnancy. There are women who have had multiple abortions because they have failed multiple times to use contraception. That is a choice.

                      • 1 vote
                      #16.8 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 9:32 AM EST
                      Par4TheCourse

                      Buddy.. Never 'ass'ume anything .. specifically trying to read into it.. because you can be really wrong when you do...

                      Any and all things can happen.. and they do.. like UFO's landing on Cantor's front lawn and not finding any intelligent life to report home about.

                      Wingnuts-Teabaggers want government out of their business.. yet you want government in another person's business.. That is being a hypocrite. The Choices are left up to those who are experiencing the event where they would have to decide.. Not you nor I .. considering we are the government.... should not interfere with another person's right to choose what they want.. I cannot tell you to wear a green cone-shaped hat in the middle of Time Square while picking your nose with one hand...and your other hand.. your thumb up your arse.. because it is wrong that I tell you to do that.. it is also just as wrong that I interfere in your life.. It is hypocritical of any person that wants their life to be about choices, while telling others they cannot choose the path they wish to follow... You cannot have it both ways... I can do whatever I want.. It is called Freedom.. and then tell someone else they can't.

                      Sure, there are people that use birth control.. although by the schmucks against birth control would rather have women go through the 9 months and spring forth a child... They are against birth control, at the same time being against Choice.. This means only one outcome.. Forcing the young child at 12-17 who was raped to have the kid.. no matter what....That is Anti-choice.. and again Government getting into other people's business.. You cannot have freedom unless you allow freedom to exist...

                      • 7 votes
                      #16.9 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 10:03 AM EST
                      Buddy-498384

                      Par4TheCourse,

                      What is it that I am assuming and reading into? Are you assuming I'm a "Wingnut or Teabagger"? I was just trying to point out that in some cases, abortion is not a difficult decision, nor a heartwrenching decision. There are women who have undergone multiple abortions because they have chosen to have unprotected sex multiple times. To them abortion is a safety net. Did I say this is true of all women, or even most women, who have abortions? No, I did not.

                      (And I specifically excluded those who have become pregnant as the result of rape and incest.)

                        #16.10 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 10:38 AM EST
                        Par4TheCourse

                        Did I use the word "You" when I wrote Wingnuts-Teabaggers? Where did I assume you were? Again you assume.. that's a habit you might want to think about breaking..

                        You forgot what you wrote when it is staring you in the face.. if I have to explain it to you .. then I do not know what to say to

                        "What is it that I am assuming and reading into?

                        --

                        There are women who have undergone multiple abortions because they have chosen to have unprotected sex multiple times.

                        Now you see.. We have something we can agree on.. But one doesn't condemn in general the Choice of a woman everywhere...because there are prostitutes out there that get pregnant and find it necessary to have an abortion. We are a country of Laws - Created by the people to stop crime... It is criminal if a prostitute continually gets pregnant .. gets an abortion.. just to go peddle her wares and get pregnant again.. That's misuse of the system and unnecessary.. But why would anyone want her to be a mother of an innocent child? Isn't there enough bad parents out there already that are bad influences on their kids? Why would we force a prostitute to have a child that we would know is destined for failure.. then the weight of that becomes switched to those in power to decide.. and to take care of.

                        Create a law that if it is a "Known" prostitute.. then she suffers the burden of death.. tie her up to some stake with hay and small limbs.. and burn her like they did to the Witches..

                        (And I specifically excluded those who have become pregnant as the result of rape and incest.)

                        Rape, incest, and the Health of the mother... You're 2/3rds the way there

                        • 6 votes
                        #16.11 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 10:55 AM EST
                        Buddy-498384

                        Par4TheCourse,

                        Well, yes, you did use the word "you"--- "Wingnuts-Teabaggers want government out of their business..yet you want government in another person's business"

                        Health of the mother is something we also agree on, by the way. A woman does not always know that she has or will have a medical condition in which pregancy will endanger her life. So, she may want to get pregnant. That woman doesn't fit the scenario of a woman who doesn't want a child but makes the choice to have unprotected sex anyway.

                        • 1 vote
                        #16.12 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 11:55 AM EST
                        Par4TheCourse

                        I guess you misunderstood the word "Yet"..

                        A woman through Planned Parenthood .. Which is ALL ABOUT the health and welfare of Women.. Over 95 percent of the cases deal in health and welfare of women.. being that I am not a woman.. I'll just say all the 'female issues'.. It isn't Abortions... it is prevention of sickness & diseases.. Planned Parenthood is a GREAT Organization.. that deserves more accolades than what it is receiving... and I am sure men go to this place as well.. I never had to deal with them.. I am fortunate that I have my own health insurance and a beautiful doctor to take care of me... but I am also sure that if I needed help they wouldn't just turn me away.

                        With all the problems in our society..people condemn one place that is doing good for the citizens of this country... How about focusing on the bad who go after Children .. where the Efforts should be.. Child Predators..and people who beat kids and kill them... Human Traffickers.. IF you want to save kids.. Then save kids.. I'm all for putting the slime balls to death...

                        • 6 votes
                        #16.13 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 12:13 PM EST
                        Buddy-498384

                        Now I misunderstood the word "yet".....(?)

                        Planned Parenthood does include services for men, which is something I think a lot of people do not realize.

                        • 1 vote
                        #16.14 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 12:19 PM EST
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                        Stop The Hypocrisy

                        So is Planned Parenthood the newest "third rail of American politics", joining and even supplanting Social Security? The events of the past few days make a pretty good case for the affirmative.

                        • 3 votes
                        Reply#17 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 2:55 PM EST
                        Frank Gruden

                        NARAL wants to build on this victory. What do they suggest, we go out and kill more kids?

                          Reply#18 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:55 PM EST
                          Carloz

                          Try reading more than the headline.

                          • 6 votes
                          #18.1 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:26 PM EST
                          scott-1148057Deleted
                          SW Missouri Mule

                          Did you run out of ideas, scott? Repeating comments is "comment spam."

                          Carlos, see #1-14.

                          • 6 votes
                          #18.3 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 4:13 PM EST
                          Carloz

                          Don't spam, Scott.

                          • 6 votes
                          #18.4 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 4:33 PM EST
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