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It's on in Wisconsin.
On Tuesday afternoon, the grassroots group United Wisconsin collected more than a million signatures in the past two months to trigger a recall election of Republican Gov. Scott Walker—nearly twice the 540,208 minimum. That's almost as many signatures as votes Walker received in his 2010 gubernatorial election (1.12 million), and hundreds of thousands more than the 720,000 signatures Walker predicted on Rush Limbaugh's show Tuesday. Democrats also said 845,000 signatures had been collected to recall Walker's right-hand woman, Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch. Additionally, enough signatures were bagged to recall GOP state senators Pam Galloway, Terry Moulton, and Van Wangaard.
The Walker and Kleefisch recall efforts were spearheaded by the grassroots group United Wisconsin, which signed up more than 30,000 volunteers to canvass all of the state's 72 counties. United Wisconsin launched the recall campaign at midnight on November 15, and had 60 days to gather enough signatures to recall the governor and his lieutenant. Accounting for the signature-vetting process and legal challenges, the recall elections for Walker and Kleefisch are likely to take place in late April or May.
The signatures must still be reviewed by the state's Government Accountability Board and could also face legal challenges by lawyers for state Republicans...
But Walker recall organizers say the staggering number of signatures amounts to a mandate to get Walker and Kleefisch out of office. "The collection of more than one million signatures represents a crystal clear indication of how strong the appetite is to stop the damage and turmoil that Scott Walker has caused Wisconsin," said Ryan Lawler, an official with United Wisconsin.
More Than 1 Million Signatures Collected for Recall of Gov. Scott Walker, Over 800,000 for Recall of Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch
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It's unclear at present who Democrats will choose to challenge Walker in the recall election. Potential candidates include Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett, Rep. Ron Kind (D-Wisc.), former Dane County executive Kathleen Falk, and possibly outgoing Sen. Herb Kohl (D-Wisc.).
Yay! Another election to look forward to in 2012. Goooooooooooo Wisconsin!!
- 30 votes
I hope they succeed but this,
The signatures must still be reviewed by the state's Government Accountability Board and could also face legal challenges by lawyers for state Republicans...
Has always had me thinking that people registered as republican will deny they ever signed the petitions. I never voiced this before because I didn't want to give the opposition any ideas. Now that the process has entered the next stage its to late for any dirty tricks like that.
- 16 votes
Has always had me thinking that people registered as republican will deny they ever signed the petitions.
I'm sure there will be many signatures disqualified, some due to dirty tricks like that, some due to honest mistakes, but there will have to be more than half a million signatures disqualified, and that's a pretty high threshold.
- 21 votes
Has always had me thinking that people registered as republican will deny they ever signed the petition
I don't think they call every single person who signed. I think they verify that that's a real person. And people who sign in bad faith -- well what can you say about an idiot like that?
And -- I would bet that most of the people living with this hell are not happy about it. In Indiana the Republican voters have revolted against the Governor's power-grab as well.
- 14 votes
I hope they succeed but this,...
But more-so because of the wider ranging effects of a recall failure\success.
Will failure spur increased voter motivation in November or will success bring about a voter apathy\malaise in November?
- 9 votes
Anybody ever tried to deny their signature on a car loan or business contract? Good luck with that lol This is very impressive!!
Go Wisconsin!!
- 14 votes
Amen, now pass the plate. But don't forget Wisconsin, you are dealing with Republicans. This is a warning...
- 12 votes
Toss those @!$%#ing teabags in the trash. Go Wisconsin! Leading the nation in middle class rights again. C'ya Teabags!
- 16 votes
What will it be like for Democrats, after going through all this trouble and then losing the recall?
Dont forget there are 5.6 million people in Wisconsin.
But they aren't all registered voters. That number is around 3.5 million. But then again, not all registered voters actually vote -- and of those who did in 2010, about 1.12 million voted for Walker.
- 14 votes
It's a very impressive number! For everyone who signed there are probably many others who also support the recall -- Recall --- very significant. It's not like saying a million said they favor recall in a poll -- these are real people ready to take action. The governor is disgraced. He should resign -- but tonight he's busy doing a fundraising (not in Wisconsin, of course) hosted by the former head of AIG. The one dirty trick you can always count on republicans for is taking money from their ring masters. Go Wisconsin!
- 10 votes
20% of the entire population, man woman and child, signed the petition, they have double the number of signatures needed, they can handle even the most robust republican challenge.
720k was thought to be a challenge proof amount and they got 1.1 million.
He is gone, it is virtually certain.
- 15 votes
feliznavidad,
The one dirty trick you can always count on republicans for is taking money from their ring masters
Really?
Sixty-nine fundraisers this year by December 1. That's an average of more than one fundraiser every five days.
Guess who did that last year. Romney? Newt? Santorum?
NOPE.
Barack Obama.
What were you saying again?
thoughts,
He is gone, it is virtually certain
We can only wait and see.
- 1 vote
If they are lucky maybe some this fall out will spill over on Paul Ryan and his sorry butt will be voted out in Nov.
- 9 votes
Make it happen. The right wing only gets to goose-step, if the People allow them...stand up, speak out, organize to put yourself back in the game. After all, the tug of war between the left and right, is about YOU; And who gets to influence and control YOU...
- 10 votes
The GOP followed Walker into a 6 foot deep hole in the ground and now they're wondering why they're getting buried.
- 9 votes
More Than 1 Million Signatures Collected for Recall of Gov. Scott Walker, Over 800,000 for Recall of Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch
It seems as though these people would get the message they are not liked or wanted in Wisconsin. Maybe the people need to get the pitchforks and torches and run them out of town.
- 8 votes
As the signatures came into the 30 offices statewide, they were verified before they were submitted to the central collection point. They knew the Tpubs would bring the big guns in money and all the dirty tricks they could muster, so they were prepared, in advance. Those Tpubs who think this is not going to get Walker out of office, are living in a fantasy land, but they will see soon enough. The people have shown big money cant' buy their hearts and minds. ON, WISCONSIN, we are so proud of you. This is the start of the real revolution coming to the US, state by state, as people learn their voice still matters.
- 8 votes
As much as I want to see Walker go, it is entirely possible for him to survive the recall, the odds are not in his favor though.
- 4 votes
The numbers are absolutely astounding, and rock solid proof of the buyers remorse now gripping the country from the Teabaggers overreaching powergrabs.
2012- The year sanity returns to the US.
Begins with Obama's reelection, a massive cleanup/kickout of the teapartiers and FINALLY some forward progress once all the obstructionist BS is gone.
Wisconsin leading the way in this movement. Proud of you all!! GREAT Job!!
- 11 votes
Good for you Wisconsin.
There are a few people around to whom I would like to say
"Put that in your @!$%#ing pipe & smoke it"
- 18 votes
#2 - Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:34 PM ESTThere are a few people around to whom I would like to say
"Put that in your @!$%#ing pipe & smoke it"
Me, too, TR. Even though this is no guarantee of a successful recall, this news is immensely encouraging. Thanks to the protesters and volunteers in Wisconsin for setting an example for the country.
- 16 votes
It was on the news last night and Walker said he think he will be out.
- 12 votes
It was on the news last night and Walker said he think he will be out.
I just want to make sure I understood: he said he thinks he will lose?
- 11 votes
By saying that he hopes to defuse the movement to have him recalled.
- 9 votes
Me, too, TR. Even though this is no guarantee of a successful recall
I think this is close to the # of voters overall in the election that put him in power. If that many folks are dissatisfied, it is a juggernaut that is not going to be stopped.
- 11 votes
i'm still just amazed that walker grabbed the third rail and refused to let go.
its like the tea party has absolutely no clue that the 20th century already happened.
- 16 votes
#3 - Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:59 PM ESTits like the tea party has absolutely no clue that the 20th century already happened.
They just want to repeal it. Too many darkies hanging around these days.
- 11 votes
its kinda like republicans steered their party too close to lunatic island so they could wave at their idiot base and slammed into a giant reality stickin up out of the water.
rawr!
- 12 votes
#4 - Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:06 PM ESTWhat a grossly inappropriate comment. People died in that tragedy and your using it as a stab at politicians ?
- 1 vote
Hey repubs thought we would never get them. I guess you couldn't suppress the petition drive eh????
- 12 votes
#6 - Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:03 PM ESTWE DID IT.....and in great numbers. I'm proud of my state and the people I worked with on this. we're tossing the tea in the harbour folks. join us.
- 12 votes
#7 - Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:03 PM ESTThe Koch Bros paid him well and the Lt. Governor. Don't worry this guy will go to work for the Kochs. I can't believe this idiot was over kissing the boots of Limbaugh. Of course why should he be any different than the rest of them.
- 12 votes
#8 - Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:30 PM ESTThis country for the voters anymore it is runned by the supreme court, special interest people, rich people, and the republicans. No more we the people it is sooo corrupt its not funny!!!
- 5 votes
#9 - Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:38 PM ESTWalker promised to take on the problems head on, he asked state workers to contribute a bit more for their healthcare and pensions...something their counterparts in the private sector have been doing right along. For his efforts union thugs painted a big target on his back.
This has nothing to do with rights of state workers, but everything to do with protecting the union's power at an expense of 9 million dollars for the election and God knows how much more for campaigning.
- 1 vote
#10 - Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:01 PM ESTThere's a million union thugs in Wisconsin??? Geeeee, I didnt know that! How did Walker get elected then?? HHHHMMMMMM.................
- 9 votes
They did that and it still wasn't enough for sky walker. Kick the A-Hole out.
- 8 votes
Ah Joe here to spread the mis-information I see, Look it up the Unions Agreed to all his concessions/demands and he stabbed in the back them anyway.
- 10 votes
There's a million union thugs in Wisconsin???
Did I say that Tom? There's one million signatures...about the same number of votes cast for Tom Barrett back in 2010.
No, it was a collection of agitators with an obssessive hatred for the man, all supported by union money pouring across the country to ferret out one million signatures. Lets wait and see how many of them get thrown out for being fake or duplicate once they are placed through the scrutiny of verification process. Probably why they wanted double the number of what was needed to force the recall.
One million signatures? Union membership in Wisconsin stands at about 350,000 wage and salary workers, throw in retirees, family members / friends and the occassional dead person or Mickey Mouse and you got your one million. About 18% of Wisconsin's population, 37% of the adult population.
They did that and it still wasn't enough for sky walker. Kick the A-Hole out.
Best wishes on that, this whole misadventure is doomed to fail.
- 1 vote
Here's some information that isn't mis-information:
"Union leaders have made some of their preferences known. They’ve been clear in their distaste of a potential candidacy by Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett, who lost to Walker by 5 percentage points in 2010. Barrett has angered some unions with cuts he made to the city budget and his support of a plan a couple years ago that would have given him control of the troubled Milwaukee Public Schools.
Mary Bell, the head of the statewide teachers union, met with Barrett in December and unsuccessfully tried to dissuade him from running, based on an email Bell sent to other union leaders that was first reported by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
Bell confirmed the meeting and email to The Associated Press.
One potential candidate organized labor does like is Kathleen Falk, a retired Dane County executive who said she is considering running. Falk, who previously ran unsuccessfully for governor and state attorney general, has been traveling the state speaking out in support of the recall."
“If there’s not a primary, then who’s actually deciding this?” said moderate Democrat State Senator Tim Cullen."
Good for you, Senator Cullen. The unions trying to stop any candidate from running is a clear attempt to put themselves in charge of Wisconsin government.
- 2 votes
#11 - Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:03 PM ESTHere's some information that isn't mis-information:
You didn't even bother to include a link to the source, so without that it's really just hearsay. Also, although the quote marks help, using blockquotes lets readers know exactly which words are yours and which words are from whatever source you've copied and pasted from.
- 7 votes
Gannet Newspapers. Hearsay? Bell admitted it to the AP. Quote marks covered the whole article. Only the last two lines were mine, so no quote. Carloz, I know it's hard to take, but that's the breaks. You will be hearing a lot more before this is over and your own party's recall, so toughen up.
- 1 vote
Gannet Newspapers. Hearsay?
Tyler, aside from people not having a crystal ball to know what source others copy and paste from, on Newsvine when we copy and paste we are supposed to provide links to sources and use blockquotes for copyrighted material. You've been a Newsviner member for almost two years now, so I doubt this is news to you.
- 6 votes
#11.4 Why does that not apply to all pro-democrat posts? I notice then what is posted is taken as gospel truth with no requests by you for links or criticism on blockquotes. Why did you not ask MJL to provide his/her source. Walker's statement in the media today contradicts what MJL says, but you took it at face value.
Tyler, it applies to all posts where someone has copied and pasted words from another source without including a link or used, and when I notice it (sometimes I miss things, or it's just not as obvious as yours was), I point it out because it's against the rules. From what I can see, on this seed MJL hasn't copied and pasted words written and copyrighted by someone ook it else. As for my saying what you copied and pasted was hearsay, I was trying to use sarcasm to egg you on to follow the rules and post a link. Instead you took it literally, argued about whether it was hearsay or not, and never did post a link. So, I'll remember in future that sarcasm is above your head and you need things clearly spelled out. So here you are as clearly and simply as I can make it: don't copy and paste copyrighted material without a link and using blockquotes.
- 6 votes
#11.6 Come on, you got huffy over my post that showed negativity to what you are promoting. I understand that very clearly, but criticizing me isn't changing the information that is out there and which the Wisconsin citizens are aware. That being said I will leave you to carry on in the manner with which you control your thread.
Tyler, you're projecting -- and I don't hope to change anything except your ignoring or your ignorance of Newsvine's rules -- regardless of which it is.
- 4 votes
What good candidates are waiting in the wings? Wisconsin (like Ohio) needs a good reliable candidate. I know some names have been thrown into the ring, but who is the most viable?
Just wondering what others think about this?
- 3 votes
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