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Steve King on default: Obama could be impeached

Seeded on Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:21 PM EDT
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King isn’t the first Republican to suggest that Obama should be impeached over the debt crisis.

Rep. Tim Scott (R-S.C.) said earlier this month it would be “an impeachable offense” for Obama to raise the debt ceiling without congressional approval.

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Carloz

Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) said Monday that President Barack Obama “would be impeached” if the nation falls into default.

That's a really helpful comment to throw out. /sarcasm/

  • 12 votes
Reply#1 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:24 PM EDT
Vlad's dog

A load of horse manure disguised as wishful thinking. We do see their real purpose though. Its' all about Obama all the time.

  • 9 votes
Reply#2 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:30 PM EDT
Carloz

We do see their real purpose though. Its' all about Obama all the time.

That's it exactly.

  • 8 votes
#2.1 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:35 PM EDT
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Roy Batty

Makes perfect sense.

1) Don't send a bill to the President.

2) Impeach the President for not signing it.

  • 11 votes
Reply#3 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:37 PM EDT
Carloz

Makes perfect sense.

1) Don't send a bill to the President.

2) Impeach the President for not signing it.

It makes sense in today's GOP, aka Bizarro World.

  • 8 votes
#3.1 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:14 PM EDT
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madvargr

I like the following scenario:

1. GOP fails to pass debt limit extension.

2. Obama declares that because of the 14th amendment the debt limit is unconstitutional and thus the government will proceed as congress directs in spending / borrowing.

3. GOP goes berserk.

4. WH goes to SCOTUS for ruling.

5. House teabaggers vote to impeach.

6. Senate does NOTHING.

7. 2012 elections happen and not a single Republican gets elected to dog catcher in America because we are so sick of their insane bull@!$%#.

8. SCOTUS rules the president was right all along.

  • 10 votes
Reply#4 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:16 PM EDT
David-2308845

This scenario sounds like the precurser to a dictatorship. I don't know the acronym SCOTUS but hearing anyone elevate a single person to a level of ALL KNOWING is personally disturbing. Hate to say it but scenario's like this remind me of Germany decades ago.

    #4.1 - Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:56 AM EDT
    Sebbydad

    Supreme Court Of The United States.

    • 3 votes
    #4.2 - Mon Aug 1, 2011 10:03 PM EDT
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    mikeofga

    8. SCOTUS rules the president was right all along.

    I really don't see how the president could do anything other than just honor the country's financial obligations if the debt ceiling isn't raised. I think the debt ceiling is legal and constitutional as long as it can be observed without defaulting. But if the president is put in the position of having to choose whether to default, observe the debt ceiling, or ignore the debt ceiling and borrow anyway, then borrowing anyway is what the constitution says he must do.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#5 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:36 PM EDT
    Sgt. Pepper

    I think the debt ceiling is legal and constitutional as long as it can be observed without defaulting.

    So you would like a debt ceiling that really isn't a debt ceiling?

    If you think the President has the constitutional authority to ignore the ceiling (which I think he does), there's really no reason the ceiling should be there at all.

    • 5 votes
    #5.1 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:53 PM EDT
    Sebbydad

    Scotus will say he was right but provide grounds for impeachment anyway. The Congress will run impeach ment hearings that will make the whitewater fiasco look like a traffic ticket.

    • 4 votes
    #5.2 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:01 PM EDT
    mikeofga

    If you think the President has the constitutional authority to ignore the ceiling (which I think he does), there's really no reason the ceiling should be there at all.

    Maybe so, but I think you could still have a legal debt ceiling that the executive branch must observe, as long as it can be observed without defaulting. For example, suppose the debt ceiling was set at 18 trillion now, and for some crazy reason the president said "I am going to run up our debt to 20 trillion, even though we can meet our financial obligations without doing that, but I think it would be a good idea because . . " In that case, it would be unconstitutional for the president to not observe the debt ceiling. Just a thought.

    • 2 votes
    #5.3 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:11 PM EDT
    Roy Batty

    I keep wondering...

    How come there is a debt ceiling but no spending ceiling? Since you have to spend to create the debt, and you want to reduce the debt, it seems to me you would nip it in the bud right where you authorize the spending!

    • 4 votes
    #5.4 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:46 PM EDT
    Sgt. Pepper

    How come there is a debt ceiling but no spending ceiling?

    Probably in case there is some state emergency (wars, states of emergency, ect.) that requires us to increase spending above a certain ceiling.

    • 6 votes
    #5.5 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:57 PM EDT
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    Jim-Evolu

    Tim Scott, the guy who said he knows about international finance because he raised a family...

    • 2 votes
    Reply#6 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
    Rob-314344

    Take a look at the responsibilities of the President

    http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Article2

    Find were it says he is responsible for the spending habits of the Congress of the past 40 years (democrats and republicans).

    • 5 votes
    Reply#7 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:46 PM EDT
    Nancy-607557

    When the U.S. Constitution states that we will pay our bills, I have a hard time understanding how the right wing Republican freshman or anyone else actually could say he was responsible when he has had republicans walk out of every committee that has been set up to deal with this problem.

    • 8 votes
    Reply#8 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:42 PM EDT
    JB-1123320

    Damned if you and damned if you don't.

    Why don't these people just admit publicly that they hate black people and they hate the fact that the majority elected a black President.

    From 2000 to 2008, the republicans had NO problem raising the debt limit so they could pay for wars, tax cuts for to the rich and other wasteful spending. Now we have a Democrat President and a Democrat controlled Senate. From May, 2011 until now, the republicans have REFUSED to raise the debt limit and pass a budget.

    • 8 votes
    Reply#9 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:03 PM EDT
    SuperSaiyan

    Apparently, Rep. King doesn't get the it's Congress' responsibility to raise the debt celing...

    • 4 votes
    Reply#10 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:18 PM EDT
    bigsaf

    Sadly, Steve King is just one of many lunatics it seems the American people have entrusted their national interests to. It's not the most outrageous or ridiculous comment or claim he's made about the President.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_King#Remarks_about_Barack_Obama

    • 4 votes
    Reply#11 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:35 PM EDT
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