
Big Bird gave money to hookers through ACORN. Oscar the Grouch had an abortion. These @!$%#ing puppets hate America, say conservatives. You know who doesn't hate America? Sarah Palin. And she has a conspiracy theory of her own to add.
Conservatives are upset about a two-year-old Sesame Street skit in which a news organisation called Pox News is lampooned (slightly - this is @!$%#ing Sesame Street) and referred to as trashy.
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Posters on Big Hollywood, a blog from Breitbart, were outraged. "PBS - a network partially funded with my tax dollars - has the right to tell my kids that their parents watch "trashy" news?" said someone called Stage Right, according to the Daily News. "The message is clear, I can't even sit my kids in front of Sesame Street without having to worry about the Left attempting to undermine my authority." Yes. Crystal clear. You've really read those tea leaves, Nostradamus.
So watching Sesame Street is how I ended up a member of the Reality Based Community. Thanks muppets -- and happy birthday!
You've really read those tea leaves, Nostradamus.
Zing.
Article fails to recognize the bigger picture. Any intelligent person who watches television would benefit greatly from reading this, especially the 'pox' news crowd.
Here's a quote from the link that I find particularly useful here.
Since the voice of the people is allowed to speak out [in democratic societies], those in power better control what that voice says — in other words, control what people think. One of the ways to do this is to create political debate that appears to embrace many opinions, but actually stays within very narrow margins. You have to make sure that both sides in the debate accept certain assumptions — and that those assumptions are the basis of the propaganda system. As long as everyone accepts the propaganda system, the debate is permissible.
During the Vietnam War, the U.S. propaganda system did its job partially but not entirely. Among educated people it worked very well. Studies show that among the more educated parts of the population, the government’s propaganda about the war is now accepted unquestioningly. One reason that propaganda often works better on the educated than on the uneducated is that educated people read more, so they receive more propaganda. Another is that they have jobs in management, media, and academia and therefore work in some capacity as agents of the propaganda system — and they believe what the system expects them to believe. By and large, they’re part of the privileged elite, and share the interests and perceptions of those in power.
— Noam Chomsky, Propaganda, American-style, Interview conducted by David Barsamian of KGNU-Radio in Boulder, Colorado (Mid 1986)
What many people fail to realize is that the entire corporate media system is exactly like Faux News, albeit more subtle. It's fun sometimes to watch a popular movie and pick out the propaganda. Here's my favorite that portrays US military.
In reality, the current media system supresses non-corporate/government entity voice. American media, ideally, should be the watchdog of government; a voice of the people that is reflected with unbiased information. America has real problems that are being perpetuated by media, especially television as an educator of children.
I know.
Teaching children the alphabet and how to read is so hateful and un-American.
(Where does that place Evangelical Republicans)?
Sesame Street, The Liberal Conspiracy That Will Indoctrinate Your Kids, Is 40 Today
Jesus F***ing Christ
*getting a headache*
Conservatives are upset about a two-year-old Sesame Street skit in which a news organisation called Pox News is lampooned
It is lampooned by Oscar the Grouch of the Grouchy News Network - GNN. So is CNN (Cable News Network) having a conniption fit because of the parody? I think not.
I grew up with Sesame Street and my children have and continue to watch it. Congratulations on 40 great years! (Now it is time for Fox News to grow up).
(Now it is time for Fox News to grow up).
I actually learn more productive things watching Sesame Street than Fox News.
Maybe FOX would gain credibility if it replaced its "journalists" and "commentators" with muppets! I mean they alreay are GOP Puppets -- let's at least make them more appealing.
I actually learn more productive things watching Sesame Street than Fox News.
Hey Lo2013 do you still watch Sesame Street? ;)
This is funny too.
You see..I never watched S.Street so can these cretins explain how I became a Democrat? I would rather kids watch S.Street than to be indoctrinated by "C" street or "K" street any day!
LMAO. Do the likes of these GOPers ever look at their hype and realize how absolutely ignorant they are?
Kshark...thanks for being real about this!...This may be a once in a lifetime event! Write this down for history...
First Halloween, now Sesame Street,,,, some of these folks on the right really need to get a clue...
Just wait til they start attacking Christmas...
Just wait til they start attacking Christmas...
well it is socialistic,,, buy gifts and giving them away to people.... also the Salvation Army and those "Red " uniforms.... what's up with that....
Not only that... but:
Fah who for-aze!
Dah who dor-aze!
Welcome Christmas,
Come this way!
Doesn't sounds very Uhmerican to me.
My kids watched these stupid puppets for years, and I had to send them to survivalist camp just to beat out the liberal ideology that it imparted.
It was a great program where my kids' self esteem was shredded, and they got to beat the tar out of a bunch of minorities and some queers, to boot.
Now they are seething hate mongers, and I feel a lot better.
They were also, somehow able to put the brakes on my kids' literacy, and now they just stare at the wall and drool.
I couldn't be happier.
Not only that... but:
Fah who for-aze!
Dah who dor-aze!
Welcome Christmas,
Come this way
OMG,,,yes... Cindy Lou Who is a subversive,,, how could one miss that....
Cindy Lou Who is a subversive
Nah. She's one of them librul media types. Remember? She kept asking questions:
Santie Claus, why? Why are you taking our Christmas tree? Why?
(psst: I think the title and subsequent discussion of Sesame Street as "indoctrination" is tongue-in-cheek)
"Maybe FOX would gain credibility if it replaced its "journalists" and "commentators" with muppets!"
Since her plastic surgery (which was not needed IMHO--she was an average-looking person before, certainly nothing wrong with her,) I think Greta van Susteren looks like Prairie Dawn. Her "new" face also moves less naturally, adding to the Muppet effect.
But she does have an actual education (geography, economics, law) so that puts her leaps and bounds ahead of her Fox colleagues like Beck (college dropout) in my book. Her network is not my cup of tea, but she's probably the most qualified on-air personality they have, and the only one who approaches being "fair and balanced."
So I agree, Fox needs more Muppets!
Fox needs more Muppets!
And at least one less manatee.
Ouch. Deleted. I guess the truth hurts.
I guess the truth hurts.
Well whatever truths or untruths may or may not have been in comment #1.20 got deleted along with the name-calling. So, because of the CoH violations, no one will be able to decide for themselves what was true or untrue about what you wrote. If you simply observe the CoH then other Viners won't be denied exposure to the truth as you see it.
And stole our roast beast! Shucks. I didn't know we couldn't use all caps. Okay. No yelling.
I was too old for Sesame Street but my nieces watch it. Maybe that's why they wanted Barack Obama to be President. I never knew!
Akfortytexan, if you disagree with my moderation complain to Newsvine, instead of engaging in off-topic ranting about it.
Boy there's a do-nothing nit wit born every minute, huh Carloz? Not directed at any individual, just saying.
A Conservative Fatwa was issused against Big Bird because of the "Pox News" parody? Am I missing anything, or is that pretty much it?
Am I missing anything, or is that pretty much it?
That's pretty much it! LOL!!!
A Conservative Fatwa was issused against Big Bird because of the "Pox News" parody?
I'm now imagining Fox News airing an Al Jazeera-esque grainy video of Big Bird being held hostage by Christian fundies wearing masks...
I thought it was because Bert and Ernie are a same-sex couple.
I'm now imagining Fox News airing an Al Jazeera-esque grainy video of Big Bird being held hostage by Christian fundies wearing masks...
Anyone else read this and immediately think it was a youtube smash waiting to happen?
I thought it was because Bert and Ernie are a same-sex couple.
That certainly isn't helping. Just don't tip the conservatives off to Peppermint Patty's sexual proclivities as we don't want to ruin Sesame Street and the Peanuts for them all inside of one week.
Yeah.... Keep Cool... you said it perfectly!
And hehe... I am sure Peppermint Patty is next on the 'witch hunt' by conservatives.
Yes, just remember Falwell's crusade against the Teletubbies.
Leave it to conservatives to be offended my a Muppet in a trash-can. Thank you Sesame Street for pissing off stupid people year after year. High five!
*high five*
Leave it to conservatives to be offended my a Muppet in a trash-can.
These are often the same folks who feel offended for being "excluded" by the use of "Happy Holidays" ( yeah, I had to plant that reminder of what's just around the corner...again ).
There are always people who look for things to get offended about, and conservatives will keep pushing that to ridiculous extremes until they have the congressional majority and the White House again.
These are often the same folks who feel offended for being "excluded" by the use of "Happy Holidays" ( yeah, I had to plant that reminder of what's just around the corner...again ).
I'm going to say "Merry Holiday" this year, just to keep them optimistic and confused.
I just say "Mele Kalikimaka"... tends to really piss off the uneducated.
I like the Virgin Mobile commercials (I think it is them) where they mix all of them in one phrase...
And *high five* to Leafy and Nic!!!!!
Oh yeah - Merry Chrismahanukwanzakah!
In a not totally unrelated matter, I just got email from the AFA:
AFA is calling for a limited two-month boycott of Gap, Old Navy and Banana Republic, the three stores owned by San Francisco-based Gap Inc., over the company’s censorship of the word "Christmas."
The boycott is part of our ongoing campaign to encourage businesses, communities and individuals to put Christ back in Christmas. The boycott runs from November 1 through Christmas Day.
Those are not stores I normally shop (I'm not much of a consumer) but if the need and opportunity arise, I'll remember to shop there first in the next two months. (And of course to wish their employees a happy Chrismahanukwanzakah!)
I say Felices Fiestas.
Thanks Kate! LOVE it!
first Tinky Winky and now Big Bird. do you think cons are aware that these are fictional characters?
do you think cons are aware that these are fictional characters?
Of course they know. The problem is, some of them are so condescending they assume we don't know and hope to manipulate us into joining their mock outrage.
Of course, it could be that they just don't care. If fictional WMD's can start wars...
They probably think Big Bird is Barack Obama. Don't look at me.... o.O this is what comes from loonies.
Big Bird doesn't have a certificate of live birth because he was hatched. He can't be President and therefore neither can Obama because Leafydebater, and I quote, writes:
Big Bird is Barack Obama
You changed the meaning of what I wrote by deleting key points in my sentence.
Who's to say Big Bird doesn't have a birth certificate? You can do anything on TV when you're a 6 foot tall bird.
You can do anything on TV when you're a 6 foot tall bird.
Which raises this question: Where's Larry Bird's birth certificate?
Leafydebater,
I watched Glenn Beck once. I learned that it was okay to take someone's words out of context to change meaning to serve one's own purpose. BTW: Sorry if it offended you, I was being kind of silly there. I knew what you meant and assumed that everyone else did too.
Wow, and here I thought Sesame Street was liberal because it taught that all different kinds of people (Latino, Black, hearing-impaired, furry, gay - aka Bert and Ernie, old - I miss Mr Hooper!!) can live together on the same street. Silly me!!
Can't you read between the lines?? Obviously, it's promoting and encouraging illegal immigrants to live off our welfare system, as well as gay marriage.
SHUT OFF YOUR TV'S!! OUR CHILDREN MUST BE PROTECTED!!!
:-O
Which characters are you refering to mizimel? I can name mine, can you?
Latino: Maria and Luis
Black: Gordon and Susan
Hearing Impaired: Linda
Furry: Elmo, Telly, Cookie, etc
Gay: Bert and Ernie
Old: Mr Hooper
Methinks someone's sarcasm detector is malfunctioning...
Bert and Ernie? Really?
You hadn't figured that out yet ThreeCents? They've only been living together as 'roommates' for 40 years!
Well because they hadn't announced it, I would have had to speculate. Why do that?
Because isn't that what the writers of the article are doing? Speculating that Sesame Street has a liberal bias that is infecting our children?
Oooohh, what a great screenplay. Like "28 Days Later" but with Muppets instead of monkeys.
ZOMBIE Muppets!!
Elmo eating children's brains (oh wait, too late)...
Then I am going to speculate that Bert and Ernie are Master celebaters and Log Cabin Republicans. I need to be able to sleep at night.
Whatever makes you feel better ThreeCents...but I suggest you go see Avenue Q and see the relationship between Rod and Nicky (blatant ripoffs of Bert and Ernie).
I always kinda thought Bert and Ernie were brothers O.o?
Wikipedia says Nicky was straight in Avenue Q. What do you suppose the "Q" stand for?
Yes, NICKY is straight...but Rod...
AND he's a Republican to boot!!
I live out on the sticks so I probably won't see "Avenue Q" anytime soon. But back to SS, I think the diverstity that is incorporatede into SS and PBS programs in general is great. This includes the SS matter-of-fact portrayal of Bert and Ernie. To mean, I couldn't care less if they were friends, brothers, college room mates or partners. No matter what SS did over the last 40 yrs, some one was going to bend into some liberal conspiracy so I take this all with a grain of salt and a pinch of sarcasm.
Bert and Ernie = Oscar Madison and Felix Unger.
Think about it:
And who's do say that Oscar and Felix weren't closet gays too?
Felix, maybe...
But Oscar Madison??? A hard-drinking, cigar-smoking, foul-mouthed, poker-playing, skirt-chasing sportswriter?
Nah.
Well... in denial, maybe.
Not that there's anything wrong with that...
Oh trust me, I know a few gays that are hard-drinking, cigar-smoking, and foul-mouthed...some of the nicest guys I know -- too bad they aren't interested in me, they'd make fine husbands for whoever they find :)
hard-drinking, cigar-smoking, and foul-mouthed
I could name a few women who fit that description.
My point exactly -- so why do you think he couldn't be gay too? :)
C'mon, belle... next thing you'll be telling me that some NFL players are gay.
Well they DO tend to spank each other's bottoms....
Well they DO tend to spank each other's bottoms....
So do third base coaches.
Yep, just add them to the 'questionable' list :)
Well they DO tend to spank each other's bottoms....
And wear those really tight trousers....
the butt-spanking ones don't surprise me,
it's the ones making out in the parking lot after the game. THOSE guys are definitely questionable.
I can easily understand how this could happen. After all, it was the Muppets that turned me into a card carrying member of the religious right. One day God will have his revenge. One day the Muppets will smite those Godless Sesame Street pretenders. Even Underdog won't be able to save them!
OMG, watch out Avenue Q!! Jack and his band of Muppets are about to attack!! :)
I still need to see Avenue Q.
I've seen it twice. It's FANTASTIC! You learn the true use for the internet and what puppet sex looks like :)
what puppet sex looks like :)
Please tell me this doesn't mean what I think it does.
Oh, the horror............
Yes believer it does. There is full frontal puppet nudity in the show. There's even a song about it (You Can Be As Loud...).
Oh lord. I'm going to have nightmares now.
And to give you a better visual -- the male puppet has nipples :)
Please stop, belle. I'm starting to itch.
Go over to Sydney's article -- there's a link to an unnecessarily bleeped Sesame Street song. You'll get a kick out of it :)
Yes, I've been over there.
You and Sydney are both loons.
No, I'm more of an albatross than a loon...
haven't seen Avenue Q... Meet the Feebles has ruined me for Puppet sex...
LMAO!!! Sesame Street? As if poor Tinkywinky didn't have enough from the homophobic smear campaign thrown at the Teletubbies. It gets crazier and crazier. I've heard it all now.
Problem is, there's always more to come from the crazies.
You've got to be kidding me.
Do they have nothing better to do? Or nothing more to worry about? Obviously, they are bored and fairly well off. IMHO, of course.
Ned Flanders. they are like him in Simpsons episode "You Kent Always Say What You Want" He is in the basement going over videos of every tv show to find something to complain about.
Was Flanders always a parody of the religious right, or did he just evolve into the role over time?
way more than you wanted to know:
Why did I spend twenty minutes reading that?
Hi ho diddily!
Sesame Street, The Liberal Conspiracy That Will Indoctrinate Your Kids, Is 40 Today
Oh, thank GOD!
finally I can justify putting them in front of the TV and letting it teach them decent values/do my job for me.
How can anybody hate on Cookie Monster? How is that possible?
Actually, a few years ago they 'defanged' Cookie Monster and made him eat less cookies and more veggies. Sigh, even Oscar is less grouchy nowadays :(
Sesame Street is apparently not what it used to be. And what ever happened to Burt and Earnie?
what ever happened to Burt and Earnie?
Didn't they move to Massachusetts and get married?
Definitely part of the liberal conspiracy.
Bert and Ernie still haven't come out about their relationship...even after being 'roommates' for 40 years!! Heck, many marriages don't last that long!
cookie monster was on the colbert report explaining his new love of things not cookie oriented..too bad i cannot find video for it...
analog ninja,
Ask and ye shall receive.
I always knew that Sesame Street was part of the communist/fascist/marxist/liberalist/something else that ends in "-ist" conspiracy! Quick, everyone, shut off your TV's! call your cable companies. OUR AMERICAN CHILDREN MUST BE PROTECTED FROM THIS EVIL!!!
And in other news.....Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy are secretly working for the KKK.
And in other news.....Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy are secretly working for the KKK.
And don't even get me started about the Muppets. There's a pig who's in love with *gasp* a FROG. OMG, the moral compass of this country is spinning madly out of control.
Yeah, interspecies dating!! OMG!!!
Just the fact that any adult would admit to scrutinizing a benign show like Sesame Street shows how desperate the far right is getting.
In their version of Sesame Street, Big Bird would end up at the taxidermist's, Bert and Ernie would get deported to France, everyone else would be evicted, and Sesame Street itself would be bulldozed so a Super-Target could be built on the site :(
Sesame Street itself would be bulldozed so a Super-Target could be built on the site :(
Super Walmart - definitely
And yet, no one bats an eye at HR PuffnStuff? The Electric Company with all their jive-talkin black folk? There's your REAL liberal progressive indoctrination programming!! Why, PBS is infested! A PLAGUE, A PLAGUE!
You forgot about the educational value of the documentaries. Imagine the risk of presenting people with information to where they might actually think! They might start to ask questions instead of just accepting what's spoon-fed to them!
Why, PBS is infested!
And what about all those British programs they air! Un-American!!!!
And what about all those British programs they air! Un-American!!!!
"Sumthin's wrong with them fellers. They don't talk normal English."
I don't think the puppets actually did that................
And Sesame Street isn't hated by conservatives. My dad is a pretty far on the right, but he loves Sesame Street.
My grandparents are even worse (they LOVE O'Reilly and Beck) but they think Sesame Street is pretty cool too.
I try to remain neutral in Politics Luminator and i see how the GOP supporters were on the ropes for well over a year and there posts were in many cases ludicrous. Now the DNC has fallen from favor and the "progressives" are striking back and they seem perhaps even sillier then the GOP. I am now politically homeless feeling the people have been sold out by both parties to special interests groups.
I hear you brother, two poor souls lost in a sea of political garbage...
Where's Ralph Nader when you need him?
Happy Birthday to Sesame Street, and thank you for helping our children learn.
I actually worked with Big Bird. What an ugly @!$%#. I'm not the sort to go on looks, but this @!$%# was fugly. And mean!! Meanest person on the planet. She rode me like I was a stallion. She said my father wasn't even a real artist because he never showed his work in a gallery. My father was a self-trained artist. He taught himself from a correspondence course as he lay in a cast up to his armpits. The doctors said he would never walk again. He had a great deal of natural talent. My dad was the real thing. I'll never forget Big Bird. Damn freakazoid!!
roflmao!!!
do you talk about the person that "controlls" big bird or the character himself when you say ugly?
Well if they're talking about Big Bird's 'controller', it's a man, so either the person got the gender wrong or they're a bit confused....
Actually it was a very tall and nasty woman in one of the hospital laboratories I had the misfortune to work in. Hated me on site. Had no friends. Thought it was her sworn duty to bust everyone's chops so they could feel just as miserably unhappy as she obviously is. It is a pity there are peeps like that in the world. EVERYBODY called her Big Bird, even to her face. She walked like that too. Think of that toy bird that "drinks" from a glass of water with its head bobbing up and down. Dead ringer.
Back to Anger Management for you biotch!! And cookies don't make up for it, you tard!
She had a serious anger control problem and went off on everybody. A real charmer, this one. One day she ripped the head of security for the hospital a new one because she had to get her new shoes wet in a puddle. She thought they should have shuttled her personally from the parking lot. At the top of her lungs she says to this guy: DON'T YOU EVEN HAVE A BRAIN!?? Wish they would have canned her, but they sent her to anger management. She always baked nasty cookies after one of her rages, like that made up for it. Never touched them myself. Rage cookies taste nasty, I'm sure. Nope, just using this thread to settle an old score.
Oh no !!!! The anti- americans have even gotten to the muppets !!! Is NOTHING sacred ?
Well, Cookie monster IS responsible for kids' bad eating habits, that in itself is subversive.....
Carloz,
Great seed! You wrote:
Conservatives are upset about a two-year-old Sesame Street skit in which a news organisation called Pox News is lampooned.
I don't think most "conservatives", even those tea partying in the streets, believe this. What alarms me is that there are enough folks ignorant enough to believe this, to sway a close election. I don't think this is an accident. Imo, attacks on the American education system begun under Reagan are beginning to bear their intended fruit.
I think they did indoctrinate me... Oh My goodness.. it works... I just said... mmmmm... COOKIEEE!!!
C is for Cookie... that good enough for me!
There is nothing better than birthdays! Happy Birthday Sesame Street!
"C is for commie, that's good enough for me!"
They should've said something like, "Foxy news", and had a fox type puppet.
I heard that the conservitives next target to stop and outlaw is Christmas music, because some one heard a song that said(Now We Dawn Our Gay Apparel).
Sesame Street was great before they introduced the newer muppets with annoying personalities (I hate Elmo).
I heard Cookie Monster doesn't eat cookies so much anymore because it sends a bad message to kids about nutrition. Oscar - not so grouchy. You know, because we all need to be happy and smile around each other ALL the time.
I am pretty liberal and this frankly is the side of liberalism that does suck!
I heard Cookie Monster doesn't eat cookies so much anymore because it sends a bad message to kids about nutrition.
he IS still Cookie monster, he had a whole show recently devoted to the cookie fairy (played by Sandra Oh from Grey's Anatomy and Sideways) giving him "the cookie touch" wherein everything he touched turned to cookies.
his regular gig on the show is foiling Prairie Dawn's attempt to introduce the letter of the day by somehow associating the letter with a cookie and eating it, OR him being on a game show wherein he has to find things that begin with the letter of the day and if so, he wins a whole bunch of cookies.
I've seen him do two songs total that are about healthy eating:
"a cookie is a sometimes food" and "healthy food"- a rap with Wyclef Jean.
as a parent and BIG TIME Sesame Street watcher when I was a kid, I really don't think much is lost there.
Oscar is still a jerk; there was recently a whole show about him spreading a grouch disease known as "mine-itis" wherein everybody got selfish, saying "mine" about everything. Oscar revelled in it and Brian Williams from NBC news was hilarious as the reporter.
he may not be as "grouchy" as he was when we were kids, but he ain't nice. Honestly, I don't have much of a memory of him from the old days. I don't think he was as developed a character back then as he is now. I think after "Elmo in Grouchland" introduced us to Grouchland USA and grouch culture more in depth, we kind of understand the whole grouch thing more and thus Oscar might be more nuanced now.
My big disappointment is the fact that somwehere between my childhood and that of my youngest brother, Snuffalupagus became known to everyone, not just Big Bird. But I guess that gag couldn't last forever, I mean, Snuffy IS the size of an elephant and had a pretty loud leitmotif to announce his presence. It really was a miracle he lasted that long in cognito.
Ah, yes, I remember 38 years ago when my neighbor pointed out the insidious indoctrination of our children and claimed they would all be turned into passive conformists. Well, it doesn't seem to have worked. We have more protestors and activists groups than ever all across the political spectrum.
Sesame Street, you're just not trying hard enough. If you continue with such ditties as "Cookie, cookie, cookie starts with C," kids are going to learn the alphabet instead of politics.
Sesame Street, you're just not trying hard enough. If you continue with such ditties as "Cookie, cookie, cookie starts with C," kids are going to learn the alphabet instead of politics.
So does Conservative and 'C-Street'. However, kids should probably not be learning that stuff yet.
Besides, any member of the far Right in good standing knows spelling is not a requirement to be part of the club. Sending kids out to hold up misspelled signs with pictures of the holocaust has got to warp the mind.
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