Tearful Atlanta Cops Express Remorse for Shooting 92-Year-Old Woman, Leaving Her To Bleed to Death in Her Own Home While They Planted Drugs in Her Basement, Then Threatening an Informant So He Would Lie To Cover It All Up

my god what is happeing to our country,.,,, this is terrible... you would think maybe they would have staked the place out to ensure they had the right home

This is what happens when you declare “war” on American citizens. You dehumanize them. And you instill an ends-justifies-the-means, win at all costs mindset in your “warriors

I think this answers your question. It's a shame. This really is an awful event. And they aren't getting the punishment they deserve.

U.S. District Judge Julie Carnes sentenced former officer Gregg Junnier to six years in prison, Jason Smith to 10 years in prison and Arthur Tesler to 5 years in prison.

Check that side by side with killing a cop.

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the part that worries me, is what about the stuff they did BEFORE this, they admit to conspiring, how many other people do you think they violated for the sake of their quota

police quotas are complete and utter bullsquat, it turns those who are supposed 'to protect and serve' into predatory @!$%#s, more like 'to enslave and victimize'

i am glad to hear that SOMETHING happened though, and that they at least got some time, definately not enough though, how many cops do you think have done the same thing but got off scott free? probably more than i can count without forgetting what number i was on ;)

the part that worries me, is what about the stuff they did BEFORE this, they admit to conspiring, how many other people do you think they violated for the sake of their quota

Considering MILLIONS have been jailed for marijuana alone, I would say the number is high.

police quotas are complete and utter bullsquat, it turns those who are supposed 'to protect and serve' into predatory @!$%#s, more like 'to enslave and victimize'

So does privatizing police forces. I say each city must hire and maintain its own force. No exceptions. If the elected officials need to answer for the actions of the law enforcement, they will ensure corruption is stymied.

Yes. Their sentence's make sense now ehh.

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Put them in one of the rougher jails, and you've sentenced them to death.

When their sentence is over with they still have hell to look forward to.

I understand leniency on those whom have decided to serve and protect us, particularly in cases that are accidents, but I think that judges must also consider the actions taken that are flagrantly opposite, and much harsher punishment needs to be given on those whom would use their higher authority for abuse, and to me is along the same lines as treason. The war on drugs is a sham, and marijuana needs to be removed from criminality. This story was disgusting, and these men should be given no less than life in prison.

They won't serve the full sentences, you can bet on it. But I'll remind you, Wheel, that the police are only one part of the system, and that the courts and the district attorneys are also complicit when these outrages occur. They are all of a piece, working hand in glove.

Like they say, a fish stinks from its head...

Totally right, the problem starts with bad laws, complicit judges and DA's that don't care about anything but their conviction rate.

Where is that piece on not keeping records of police atrocities.

I remember the discussion but not the seed. I do remember searching for info on officer involved shootings and found that it's practically impossible to get that kind of info even though there is a law that every police dept is supposed to report every incident.

In the case of police, judges, etc. - they are always more lenient with one of their own. It's an "us against them" mentality, with all those who are "them" (granny here) paying the full price for this cronyism.

More like:

Wealthy Justice

Police Justice

And Just-Us.

More like:

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Police Justice

And Just-Us.

That is the truth.

Carnes sentenced former officers Gregg Junnier, Jason R. Smith and Arthur Bruce Tesler to between 5 and 10 years in prison.

5-10 years?!?! And with good behavior they can be out after 15% has been served...

Obtaining an illegal warrant,

Killing a woman,

Planting drugs,

Threatening a witness,

5-10 years?!?!

Those who we trust to uphold the law should be subject to much harsher penalties for breaking those laws.

This is not justice.

Let's break this down:

1.) Murder - life sentence, or execution. If not, then manslaughter. Either way - 20+ years.

2.) Possession of a controlled substance - at least a few years in jail.

3.) Threatening a witness/informant - upwards of 3 years or so in some states.

4.) Illegal warrant - I'm not sure what that is, but the closest is unlawful entry or breaking/entering. Either way, at least a few years in prison.

How in the world did these guys just get 5-10?

The same sentence. They are not above being human.

Tesler said when he joined the narcotics unit, he was told to “sit, watch and learn” from superiors who cut corners to meet performance quotas for arrests and warrants.

Every last one of them. No more death.

dannee, you are absolutely right on.

She was killed by officers after they used a no-knock warrant — obtained with falsified evidence — to storm into her house in search of drugs an informant had inaccurately told them were inside

Oh, I cannot even post how I`d feel without using too much profanity. 39 F*******TIMES!!! I wished to God she could`ve at least taken one of them OUT! No, ALL OF THEM!!!! Sorry SOB`S. Oh, they`ll get their 3 squares a day and hopefully ALOT more, if you know what I mean.

Which individual falsified the evidence? Who gave the order to proceed without proper surveillance? They should also be punished.

Not knowing all the details about how it went down, I'm not sure who to blame and how much blame to assign.

My point is that the whole system was at fault here and should be punished accordingly. Also, that personal integrity is at the root of the system failure.

I agree and share your outrage. If the people who run Atlanta PD have no more sense than this, they are obviously too busy being macho to care about the people they are suppose to be protecting. However, the culture need a make over and not just the cops that shot that poor woman.

Okay maybe more the family should sue the police force

That sounds good. Ultimately it`s yours and my money. Taking care of any dependants is one thing. Punishing you and me is not my idea of justice.

It seems that police are being taught to behave in that manner. Seems that the police unions should bear some of the responsibility... a lot of it. There is a lot of peer pressure goes on in those groups to follow these sorts of behaviors.

If you ask me that lady needed a bigger gun to protect herself and some training.

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Rampant corruption trickles down from the top. Many in law enforcement are ex-military. They use ignorance and play on the fears of the people to pass ignorant laws to gain more power. Why does Robin Hood come to mind?

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Been going on forever.

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"...the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races."

"Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death."

"Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men."

"Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing"

"You smoke a joint and you're likely to kill your brother."

"Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind."

And he loved to pull out his own version of the "assassin" definition:

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Man claims police threatened him with Taser in racist attack

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I`ll keep an open mind.

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For the sake of justice maybe?

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The "Justice System" has NEVER been about justice. Just the law.

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I could tell you the story of my just-turned-18-year-old, 5'2", 95 pound daughter who was intoxicated at a post-grad party and smarted off to a rookie cop who came to break it up. He arrested her for underage drinking and handcuffed her hands behind her back. When her heel broke at the bottom of the stairs and she fell face forward onto the pavement, the rookie cop had his arm through hers and it was twisted in the fall, so when she rolled over on the ground, chin and nose bleeding, face and knees all banged up, this 6'4", 250 pound, 24-year-old cop tasered her - out of anger. Then, he claimed that she was "running away", though the taser marks were on her abdomen (where he burned her by holding the unit against her skin) and her front, upper thighs.

The attorney said it was best "not to fight it, because they hold all the cards and can make life difficult for you". How do you rationalize arresting someone for breaking the law when you break the law yourself during the arrest? This bastard is still "upholding the law" here in our town, while my daughter went through hell and her entire savings, and a lot of ours, paying the price for this nefarious "crime". This episode taught my daughter a lot about our police force and the law - none of it good. I wanted her to respect and trust the law and law-keepers, but now she fears and hates them instead.

There are a few things I'd like to do to that cop, but they're against the law.

So pj,

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It`s not like it`s an isolated incident.

we can add the boy shot in the subway while handcuffed on his stomach.

How is this related to America's gun culture

We need bigger guns to protect ourselves.

Tearful Atlanta Cops Express Remorse for Shooting 92-Year-Old Woman, Leaving Her To Bleed to Death in Her Own Home

Yeah, then she wouldnt bleed to death, the only misfortune would be the fact they would be burying her in a shoe box because that would be all that is left of her.

jbdaad,

I don't know if Holder or MSNBC are the ones who can do it. Since the Patriot Act went into effect, all citizens are potential criminals or terrorists in the eyes of our "peace"-keepers. Cops have been allowed and encouraged to treat everyone as if they are threats. There is something rotten at the top.

Patriot Act=Terrorism=Terrorist Cop Cartels

Terrorize my kids and I`ll not like you very much!

Little old ladies and young. It matters not. Fortunately this `officer` (and I use the term loosely) didn`t have a gun in his hand...or a taser.

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We`ll just keep stacking up the atrocities here Carloz.

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The attorney said it was best "not to fight it, because they hold all the cards and can make life difficult for you".

In this video the cop tells this youngter that the sooner he learns to respect cops the longer he`s gonna live. At least he was honest.

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Unbelievable.

It's time we get the police to start policing their own.

My mother used to tell how things occur like pedulums. They swing way over here and then way over there and depending on how long the string was it may take a while for it to stop swinging so much.

She might have been armed with a gernade launcher. It's best to play it safe.

Or she could be hiding a tank in her single bedroom apartment.

@#$& 'em.

"Umm, excuse me officer, can you bend over and hand me that bar of soap? Yea, that bar of soap right by the drain."

Da** right, they`re crying only for themselves. At first I wished she had taken them with her, but that would be to good for em.

They`ll be getting their JUST DESSERTS!!! With whipped cream and a cherry on top, ha!

You said 'cherry'.

Not after the first night!

LOL!

Oh yes, in fact i know a couple of people who could tell just the treatment they can expect to get, want their numbers, but i warn you, they arent exactly the most decent people.

Dont worry these guys are the softer of the ones from the prison, they were only convicted of aggravated armed robbery.

I oppose the death penalty-even for cops.

Let the gang members get 'em.

LOL!

I'm curious: why do people regard the death penalty as punishment? Why should a killer get out of living the rest of his life with the consequences of his actions, like the rest of us? Why give him a free pass?

Actually, I'm more conservative in regards to the death penalty. I don't think the killer should be granted life, even if the rest of it is in prison, after killing others. The only problem is that I've read that the death penalty costs a lot to carry out and people put to death are usually in prison for like 30 years before they get put to death, so it still costs a lot. But again, I'm not sure on the numbers on that, I just remembered reading something about that.

I did some research a few years ago, and found that a death penalty prosecution costs roughly twice what it would take to support a 20-year-old in prison for life. Moreover, the cost of prosecution is borne by the prosecuting jurisdiction, while the cost of imprisonment is borne by the entire polity; that's not so much an issue in Federal cases, but in local jurisdictions a single capital case can nearly bankrupt a small city like mine. It's simply not cost-effective.

Executing someone doesn't punish him: it merely erases him; and since he's dead, he doesn't care. I'd FAR rather be dead than spend the rest of my life in prison.

I am also suspect of the concept of quotas for arrests that may be one of the driving forces behind this. That goes to city and county governments. If that is the only way to gauge preformance issues then something is terribly amiss.

thanks

Just call them all Lucifer-which is actually an insult to the Devil, lumping him with the cops like that.

The tyrany of law continues.

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Repeal the death penalty.